back then the other person that was back there would have been rolling around in the back also and they weren t. a document from someone who was with freddie gray in the van that says to the police according to them he tried to hurt himself, the family member of one of the officers involved saying they thought that he got hurt before he was in the van. so let s examine this. how much weight should it have? whether this prisoner matters, does the family member matter more? cnn justice reporter evan perez is digging down for us. what do you got? you know chris, we re talking about six blocks. this is when the second prisoner gets into the van and they are taken to the police station, both prisoners. so during this six-block ride is when this prisoner says he believes he comes to the impression that freddie gray was trying to harm himself. freddie gray is picked up at 8:42. that s when the paddy wagon was requested. 8:46 van driver says he s being irate and put leg irons on him. fre