but don t have the expectation that the mayor or the police commissioner is going to step out and say here s what we know here s what s going to happen. uh-huh. i ll say this we have as we know it s not going to undermine our ability to seek justice for freddie gray. i want to make sure that when this information goes to the state s attorney we continue to do that. that s the only way we re going to be able not just to seek optics i mean to seek justice for optics but to have justice for freddie gray. we ve been talking in schools, i ve been talking to clergy leaders, community leaders, about this process to make sure people have the right expectations about what s going to go on on friday. tomorrow is not the day. i m just saying do you agree with that proposition? don t look to tomorrow for the end. well it can t be the end. there s been no charges, there s been no trial. it cannot be the end. understood but you know people aren t clear on that. i just want to make it cle
back then the other person that was back there would have been rolling around in the back also and they weren t. a document from someone who was with freddie gray in the van that says to the police according to them he tried to hurt himself, the family member of one of the officers involved saying they thought that he got hurt before he was in the van. so let s examine this. how much weight should it have? whether this prisoner matters, does the family member matter more? cnn justice reporter evan perez is digging down for us. what do you got? you know chris, we re talking about six blocks. this is when the second prisoner gets into the van and they are taken to the police station, both prisoners. so during this six-block ride is when this prisoner says he believes he comes to the impression that freddie gray was trying to harm himself. freddie gray is picked up at 8:42. that s when the paddy wagon was requested. 8:46 van driver says he s being irate and put leg irons on him. fre
were in pain. and my hope is that by focusing on justice and by focusing on that pathway forward we ll have time and space to heal our community. we have work to do to rebuild that trust. work that we ve been doing. i ve been in the process of reforming my police department. we put in place better training. we ve got police discourtesy complaints down excessive force down shootings down. we re holding more officers who act out, we re holding more of those officers accountable. lawsuits against the city are down. with all of that progress we re making you see the pain that still exists. so my goal is to find the space and the place and the pathway not just to justice but to peace and to allow us to heal and to get better as a city. but it all starts with the case right? because justice winds up being a process, fairness under law and justice delayed is justice denied. we ve all heard those words. they ve set up an expectation here about tomorrow. you know that.
me already. maybe they d charge me maybe they wouldn t. why weren t these officers arrested? you got a guy who dies in their custody with a crushed larynx and a broken spine, he did that to himself in a van? maybe, maybe not, but certainly would be probable cause that a crime would be committed as a citizen as the defendant. why not here? so what you re talking about is the deeper issues and the pain that i know exists in our community. no i m talking specific to the facts of this case. yeah. specifically to this case not to pad your pedigree but you are a practicing attorney. you know if it were a regular person a citizen, and you had someone with a crushed larynx and a broken spine and it was just about your client and that victim tharks would very likely be probable cause for some type of arrested charges. but you re speculating. quite likely but it could be the same situation. and at the end of the day it s about this case and making sure we re getting this case right.
and speculate about what could have happened if it was a private citizen that did it. when the officers are home getting paid and freddie gray s dead and it seems like there s a connection between what happened. nobody wants to paint the police in a bad light. that does not help the future of your community. but the suspicion is what matters. you understand what i m saying? i absolutely understand. and that s why i ve worked so hard to reform our department. i ve worked to get the justice department in here to do a collaborative reform process because i know we have issues with our police department. i know there are issues of mistrust. and i want to do everything in my power to bring the resources to my city so we can fix it. and we re going to do that. the issues that you re talking about and the mistrust and the expectations that s bigger than this one case. and we have to get it right. so while we seek justice for freddie gray i m going to continue to push for progress. i m goi