joins phang joins us. gene palmer i don t know whether he is or is not involved. one statement floating around there unconfirmed that sweat says he had nothing to do with, this basically just joyce mitchell. but maybe matt had a different relationship with gene palmer? maybe. i think both joyce mitchell and gene palmer were probably nervous whether or not they were going to catch this last convict alive from. we understand though if you look at the charges that have been filed by the clinton county d.a., the promoting the contraband and the tampering we don t see anything in terms of facilitation of the escape. in fact, the promoting of contraband were just for the small tools and for the art supplies that were supplied by gene palmer. so, right now even the clinton county d.a. does not believe that gene palmer helped in any escape plans by either sweat or matt. that s the distinction is that by giving them the tools, the contraband, that right, no doubt prison rules. and i suspe
that doesn t help him. yeah. you know, he didn t rush to come clean in terms of his involvement. that would have saved his hide a little bit more so than what s happened here. i think across the board you see from joyce mitchell, gene palmer, dave sweat and richard matt that failing to plan, is planning to fail. they didn t have a plan b. joyce mitchell didn t pick us up we were supposed to go to mexico instead we go to canada. richard matt has blisters, sweat says forget you and took off. you predicted. you said they should flight up. i don t think that gene palmer is going to be looking at exposure. joyce mitchell. they definitely planned to kill lyle michelleer. mitchell. she is looking at serious charges for planned attempted murder of her husband. i m pretty sure that they if they weren t watching i don t think they took my
advice. i don t think they have cable in those cabins or brush. ted, joyce mitchell she is in deep trouble this isn t helping her any. at least if david sweat had had died, had been shot and killed, he wouldn t be talking. he is living. he is talking. he is living and is he talking. and you are absolutely right. i think joyce mitchell has,when she heard that sweat is still alive i think that that was her worst nightmare. and naturally sweat is going to be able to provide perhaps, testimony against her if he talks the bad problem with sweat though is he is damned if he does and damned if he don t. is he is going to be in the penal institution the corrections officers are going to be really pissed at him for escaping. the inmates are going to be kicked off and consider him a snitch. so he could be also in a heap of trouble greta. we have to remember that david sweat was doing life so if you add, you know, another two three four felonies on, i m not sure what difference it s going to
burning some paintings. that doesn t help him. yeah. you know, he didn t rush to come clean in terms of his involvement. that would have saved his hide a little bit more so than what s happened here. i think across the board you see from joyce mitchell, gene palmer, dave sweat and richard matt that failing to plan, is planning to fail. they didn t have a plan b. joyce mitchell didn t pick us up we were supposed to go to mexico instead we go to canada. richard matt has blisters, sweat says forget you and took off. you predicted. you said they should flight up. i don t think that gene palmer is going to be looking at exposure. joyce mitchell. they definitely planned to kill lyle michelleer. mitchell. she is looking at serious charges for planned attempted murder of her husband. i m pretty sure that they if they weren t watching i don t think they took my
little bit inconsistent it me. yeah. it is surprising. i mean you think about the two gunshot wounds and that s why we keep calling this facility behind us to find out if he has needed surgery. he has two gunshot wounds. he doesn t need surgery but that s what we have been told. and as for now, he is in that stable condition. but obviously very guarded in many ways. both by the doctor its watching his condition keeping him alive. to keep talking with the investigators and it seems like they have turned that corner to get him to that next level. all right. we will continue to monitor. talking stable. critical is worse. but he has been upgraded from critical to stable. thank you laura. so now that cop killer david sweat is caught alive could anything he says to police hurt corrections officer gene palmer or prison worker joyce mitchell s case. that s what they re both fearing tonight. corrections officer gene palmer appearing in court with a new lawyer and facing the real possibi