advice. i don t think they have cable in those cabins or brush. ted, joyce mitchell she is in deep trouble this isn t helping her any. at least if david sweat had had died, had been shot and killed, he wouldn t be talking. he is living. he is talking. he is living and is he talking. and you are absolutely right. i think joyce mitchell has,when she heard that sweat is still alive i think that that was her worst nightmare. and naturally sweat is going to be able to provide perhaps, testimony against her if he talks the bad problem with sweat though is he is damned if he does and damned if he don t. is he is going to be in the penal institution the corrections officers are going to be really pissed at him for escaping. the inmates are going to be kicked off and consider him a snitch. so he could be also in a heap of trouble greta. we have to remember that david sweat was doing life so if you add, you know, another two three four felonies on, i m not sure what difference it s going to
officers. is it plausible in your mind that matt and sweat could have gained the knowledge of this trail? perfectly plausible. bottom line, you believe this is how they did it? yes sir. i don t see any other way that they could have done it. now greta we know that after that first cabin where the d.n.a. was found the details get a little fuzzy and the train gets difficult to pick up other atv and snowmobile trails. matt went west shot and killed. sweat went north tracked down and shot and taken into custody. i walked with the the sheriff up there at the crime scene today and the railroad bed which would take you not only to where he was just a smile short of canada but all the way across the border. you may be wondering how would two prisoners find out where these atv snowmobile trails are i stopped in the gas station and can you buy a very clear map at any gas station in this area, not to mention a lot of the correctional officers in that prison also
thank you. my pleasure. sweat s dramatic capture thanks to law enforcement jay cook. griff jenkins is on the ground in upstate new york. he spoke to a neighbor who knows jay cook. sea hero, there is no question about that i have known him for over 30 years and this is something extraordinary. when i heard this it didn t surprise me. a week ago i asked him when are you going to catch this guy. said be patient with me, i will eventually. jay is resting. i asked him how much sleep he got last night and he said i didn t get hardly any. so, i m sure his adrenaline is still going. and griff joins us from plattsburgh, new york. griff? hi, greta. that s right. the hometown hero. sergeant cook pays for a meal i would be surprised. also the u.s. border protection and tactical unit who shot and killed richard
joins phang joins us. gene palmer i don t know whether he is or is not involved. one statement floating around there unconfirmed that sweat says he had nothing to do with, this basically just joyce mitchell. but maybe matt had a different relationship with gene palmer? maybe. i think both joyce mitchell and gene palmer were probably nervous whether or not they were going to catch this last convict alive from. we understand though if you look at the charges that have been filed by the clinton county d.a., the promoting the contraband and the tampering we don t see anything in terms of facilitation of the escape. in fact, the promoting of contraband were just for the small tools and for the art supplies that were supplied by gene palmer. so, right now even the clinton county d.a. does not believe that gene palmer helped in any escape plans by either sweat or matt. that s the distinction is that by giving them the tools, the contraband, that right, no doubt prison rules. and i suspe
that doesn t help him. yeah. you know, he didn t rush to come clean in terms of his involvement. that would have saved his hide a little bit more so than what s happened here. i think across the board you see from joyce mitchell, gene palmer, dave sweat and richard matt that failing to plan, is planning to fail. they didn t have a plan b. joyce mitchell didn t pick us up we were supposed to go to mexico instead we go to canada. richard matt has blisters, sweat says forget you and took off. you predicted. you said they should flight up. i don t think that gene palmer is going to be looking at exposure. joyce mitchell. they definitely planned to kill lyle michelleer. mitchell. she is looking at serious charges for planned attempted murder of her husband. i m pretty sure that they if they weren t watching i don t think they took my