top of everything else the prosecution o failed. they did find fred s business card in harvey s wallet, but that wasn t enough either. meanwhile theou public and lynn family would be encouraged to believe it was a simple case of apl burglary gone bad, a murder the cops should have prevented. i couldn t go out there and defend that apartment asre muchs i wanted to. youwa couldn t say anything. and i can t tell the press because the suspects are persons of interests are the ones we re looking at. we don t wante to alert them. we a don t want them to get lawyers. and my department was quick to resolve because we have a black eye. the press was just beating us up daily. so the clock was ticking. detectives need to prove the murder for hire plot, and they needed to do it fast. so that was the whole game trying to play cat and mouse, trying to get more. we want to get them to talk, we
simple case hold on a second the line is ringing. in the middle of the conversation fred got another call from frank. fred puts him on hold, continues to speak with the detective, even offering a theory about the killer nick harvey. you know, the kid may have been someone associated with the lock change. it may have been someone associated with someone she met and tried to help. exactly. fred hung up with the detective and picked up his cellphone to talk. that call was also recorded. hello. did you hear a lot of that? kind of. okay. good. i don t need to talk about it. okay. how are you doing, bud? it has been a rotten, rotten time. all the there s so much sympathy and so much activity surrounding it, it s unbelievable.
it what you want. she got married, moved to california with a brand new husband. it didn t work out. ended pretty quickly. but then one day she went to a ball game, dodgers versus somebody. who knows? and she found him. the right guy. her guy. fred schockner. he was almost 14 years older than she was, but it didn t seem to matter. didn t hurt either that fred was a very successful man. anyway, this time it clicked. they had an intimate wedding on a boat off the california coast. the captain did the honors. and they lived alone together in that house in bixby knolls. until finally, after 11 years, they had a son who grew up to be charlie. as parents they encouraged him to try new things. it was the olympics and we were watching gymnastics and i turn around to my parents and go i m going to do that. and i think like a month later i
fred schockner. reporter: fred schockner, lynn s husband of 25 years. on the surface it didn t make much sense. after all, fred had been cooperative with detectives from day one. and yes, he had moved out of the family house, but he told them the break was amicable. she was my best friend, he said. and yet, not long after the murder, young charlie sought out detective birdsall and whispered an awful question. did my dad have something to do with this? reporter: charlie remembers what they told him. the detective was very quick to assure me that they had no suspicions of that. they don t think that would be something that was happening. and if they had thought that, that they would already have looked into it and not to worry about that. reporter: is that what detectives really believed? well, no. we had to sit there and look at him in the eye and say, we ll catch everybody who was involved. reporter: but not say we suspect him? exactly. reporter: they believed they
controversy. esper said he had lost trust and confidence in navy secretary richard spencer over his lack of candor about conversations with the white house. and michael bloomberg made it official. announcing his run for the white house. now back to dateline. nearly a month after lynn was cut down at her own back door, her killer was behind bars, but her husband, fred, was still a free man and back in the family home with charlie. the press was in the dark. no one seriously believed that the police now firmly believed that fred shockner ordered and paid for his own wife s murder. as charlie s uncle mark said never in my wildest dreams even after she was killed because the circumstances