Laughing before you said 10 years ago when you first started you had hair. Guest not a lot but i had hair. Host what started you down the road to actually put it ebony and ivy together . Guest its actually a long story that i can make short. I had just been moving from one job to another in a teaching position and i had just finished a book project and i started out on what i thought was going to be simple book, simple article actually. I was just going to explain how black abolitionist got their education given the fact that they were excluded by race from american colleges. I was just going to tell the story and some of them went to europe. Some of them went to new england and studied privately. Some of them studied privately in the atlantic and they became ministers and teachers and doctors and all sorts of things. But in fact one of the things i got more interested in if they started that project was why they were excluded from these colleges and universities. These colleges in fac
Prepared by nature for that existence. That idea preexisting rights of the Scientific Academy of north america but it gets coopted by science. In many ways science becomes one of the key areas for defending race and for defending the injustices of modern slavery. I write about that in the book for a few reasons. One of the good ones is actually thats the path that allows universities to emerge by the 1830s. As independent actors in the political sphere. Its precisely the ability of university and faculty and officers to argue in defense of slavery that creates the space in the public sphere. Host i assume because it is the university that they are the center of learning so therefore what more appropriate place to take place and validate this racist science or raise science youre talking about . Gaska the prestige of the university rises with race and then race creates the prestige of the university so that race ultimately unfettered if you remember the beginning of our conversation we
Just got it from charles croppedhammer, the things that matter, his new collection of essays some of which are biographical. That makes my day. Died like radio. Three hours is an abundance of time and i can do so many things. More with radio talkshow host hugh hewitt on cspans q a. You are watching cspan2 with politics and Public Affairs weekdays featuring live coverage of the u. S. Senate, weeknights watch the Public Policy events and every weekend the latest nonfiction authors and books on booktv. You can see past programs and get schedules that our web site and join in the conversation on social media sites. Up next on booktv, afterwards with guest host, political activist and radio host joe madison talking with Craig Steven Wilder on his book ebony and ivy race, slavery, and the troubled history of americas universities. In the book, the mit history shared discusses how the campuses of many of the universities were not only built by slave labor but funded by profits earned from the
Black abolitionists got their education given the fact that they were excluded by race from american colleges and universities. I was going to tell the story read some of them went to europe and some of them went to new england and studied privately. Some of them studied privately in the the atlantic and they became ministers and teachers in. Years and all the sorts of things. In fact one of the things i got more just and as i started that project was why they were excluded from these colleges and universities. These colleges in fact have a long history with black people on campus as enslaved people but not his students. They also had a long history with native americans and at the very time that students were native American Students had been on campus for years. Host native American Students have been on campus doing what . Guest as students. Host how was it that they were able to be on campuses and you write about that. Guest if you think about it the first attempt to build a colleg
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