anymore. and here we are now. thank you so much, joyq■. good evening, from new york, i am chris hayes, andñr■it is a big night with major historic breaking news. and i mqgoing to be with you for the next hour entirely. and after that, the one and only rachel maddow will be here. kmt. x■so, we expect that somelp time early next week that the former president of these united states willoki] surrender to the manhattan district attorney s office where he will be arrested and face arraignment on felony criminal charges. and that m■jul■ afternoon a grand jury in manhattan voted to indict donald trump i of their son baron. this is the culmination of an investigation that s been five years and two districtf■ attorneys. in recent weeks, as the case neared a close, or appeared to, we saw key witnesses testify before the grand juryñr■ down i■ m■attan, including michael cohen, trump st■r and fixer, who actk!ñ■made the payments toçó■daniels in october of 201
there s an old statements from - latin american dictator from - for my friends, anything, from my enemies, the law. and we use it with trump because that s really the wa he s operating i want to stay here, though, o this point because i think this is really important for the people watching this right now an sort of making light of this you know, this point about wha the rule of law means, which i really kind of been the no above the whole question o donald trump from the very beginning, from the lock her u stuff, right like, all of this what does it mean what is a cash out to, tha phrase means and i think the point here about what that means and ho it catches out here is that, a he is intense into till proven guilty and he does hav constitutional rights as a defendant. let her be, we don t know what the case is, but it might no also be a strong case. i just don t know. and if you - that to me is an important par of this. when john edwards go prosecuted by the obama justic depart
because an attorney was in the room when he had this conversation. i don t think that will stand up in court. i think you ll see don jr. and eric trump resist along the lines and find some sort of, you know, shoot for the moon legal strategy to say oh, yes, we have executive privilege, too. but at the end of the day, they don t. ivanka not being subpoenaed was very smart. i think we re seeing through chairman nadler the public relations game. this is a pr trial. so as a pr move, why don t you get her documents? several people subpoenaed will incite exclusive privilege. but you ll see other people such as trump organization employees, they re going to have to turn over documents. there s no way about it. but then it gives democrats the ability to stay on the next public relations front what are they hiding from the people claiming executive privilege. once that fight is going