check out angi.com today. angi. and done. earlier on morning joe, we spoke with pentagon press secretary admiral john kirby to explain why american officials are challenging vladimir putin s claims that mariupol is a success for russia. well, we still have seen resistance inside mariupol. obviously, that resistance has been dwindling over time as the russians have continued their onslaught. but we still see pockets of resistance inside mariupol, and we also see, again, the russians applying even more firepower. most of the air strikes that we re seeing in ukraine are focused on mariupol and to the north in the donbas. but they have definitely still been pounding mariupol. what can you tell us, admiral, about the failing of russia s
to do things they haven t done in a long time, what comes up short is that the slaughter of civilians in bucha was sponsored in part by the international community that has remaining contact into russia s economy. what is your sense of the atrocities becoming more public in bucha and what we know we don t know in mariupol and the question about russia being a state sponsor of terror? we re going to have to do a serious reckoning here, nicolle. that was captured by a man they call biden s shadow secretary of state, that s chris coons. he said he thought there needed to be a conversation about when u.s. troops get involved. the senator was clear to say i don t mean combat troops that will get us into a shooting war.
respect for the rules of warfare in the modern world. and then you slam that right up against the reality of the technology we have at this point in time in history which is that all of this is being recorded. and felt, felt viscerally by millions of people across the world. particularly felt viscerally by the people of ukraine. what is going to happen here is no matter what happens in mariupol or what happens in other places, russia will never be able to conquer the hearts and minds of the ukrainian people now. that has taken the same course as their flagship. it has sunk. so this idea that he is peddling to the russian people to liberate ukrainians wont them
mariupol. mariupol is literally as you know one of the battalion leaders described to it the pope is hell on effort. there is a steel works. it is a series of bunkers where they are hiding. more than a thousand civilian. elderly, women and children. rush is beginning heavy bombardments with the heaviest bombs they have. they are willing to slaughter 1,000 civilians. another terrible story in the south is under intense fire at the moment. i have friends there and exchanging text messaging saying it s intense and electricity is out in some parts but the battle of donbas started officially.
we have electric cars, hydrogen vehicles and we have eight years to prepare and did nothing. angela merkel of germany gave up on nuclear power and probably now fearing hiroshima because of what she did and the battle we need to fight at the moment and like look. i hope that we re going to learn the lessons. one less story i was told yesterday is a few american banks winded down the business in russia. i quote. we will be done in a few months or years. fair enough. let the people in mariupol wait for you to wind down the business. you had eight years to prepare