when the russian plane knocked down our drone a few weeks ago, china showed up in russia holding hands with them. a win for russia is a win for china. a loss what does a loss look like for ukraine in ukraine loses, we are looking at a further war. we don t want that. if ukraine wins, it sends a message to china on taiwan, sends a message to iran building a bomb, it sends a message to north korea about testing ballistic missiles. we need strength. you don t have the put cash on the ground, you don t put troops. it s about showing american strength, and that doesn t imply that you re doing war, that implies that you re showing you believe in your commitment. none of this would have happened had we not had that debacle in afghanistan. it showed unbelievable weakness, that we went and left bagram air force base in the middle of the night while not telling our allies who stood shoulder to shoulder with us for decades because we asked them to be there. think about what that told our
bombs? if they think they can do do it and they can protect their peoplely doing it and also get on a level playing field, then they can do that, so i have no problem with cluster bombs being sent to ukraine. pete: ambassador, how do you a lot of candidates, i believe yourself included but i don t want to mischaracterize, have said, hey, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. we can address america s problems here at home while supporting the ukrainians, but what do you say to the fact that even our own president has revealed the fact that we re low on ammunition? we re calling up members of the ready reserve as backup for initiatives in europe? at some point don t we rob peter to pay paul as we throw billions of dollars into ukraine including now cluster bombs and you re not able to address the glaring issues we have here at home in. well, i don t think we should be giving cash to ukraine. i don t think we should put troops on the ground. i think we should make our allies pony
it s because government and health organizations from around the globe pony up the money for the building and the funding and research and then in return, laura, there is generally less red tape and labs in the west especially when it comes to research on primates, for example, which is especially important when you need to test things like vaccines and antivirals and you need a nonhuman primate model. also notice that the lab works with the world health organization, the w.h.o., whose largest funding comes from the u.s. government. that s a data point worth keeping an eye on especially if it comes out later that some of the labs work was nonscientific in its application. laura? laura: hmm. organic function research. you bet. laura: i i wonder if you have acommeng in arkansas. no