intensity, the passion of the polish feeling of nationalism, of the roots of their culture, of their anger at what putin is doing with russia, and of their solidarity with ukraine. that s the most important lifeline that ukraine will have going forward. a very dark heard is about to begin, as we ve been saying. it is wonderful to hear zelenskyy give his speech this morning, but just over the next day or two we are going to see some nightmare scenes of a country being crushed and its best friend will be its closest friend, poland. we will be trying to help in every way we can, but we ve said we re not going to provide troops. the pols said we will provide a corridor to help your partisans, your resistance struggles in these days ahead. so poland is crucial. i can only imagine, mika, what your dad would say if he were at the table with us here. he would just feel the deepest pride and conviction, not just
administration is restricting less. unlike the 1970s, this is the price the president chose to pay. how can we overcome the damage? my next guest has the answer. rick perry. where are we on track in terms of oil and natural gas to europe. we knew this was a security issue, didn t we? president trump understood if you wanted to be strong from a national security standpoint you make sure you have fossil fuel that will keep our military fueled so to speak. when it comes to europe, we were sending the message, the pols
is so strong. not just in poland but in the baltic states, in the other states on the border with ukraine. he said, we are obviously celebrating the ukrainians for the heroism, the bravery, the grit, the determination they re showing in this fight with vladimir putin, but we re not just into the david versus goliath story here. we see them as fighting our fight. that this is our fight, too. we know we could be next. so they re fighting our fight, but they re fighting it earlier than we are, but this fight might come to us. so we are invested in their success, and so we by being invested in their success we will support them materially and support their people. there s a rational calculation of self-interest that goes beyond generosity and idealism, although there s plenty of that, too. a real visceral connection and a shared experience for the pols and the ukrainians. john heilemann live from poland. thank you very much. we want to show you a piece of video now out of russia.
when the u.n. talked about how a million people had fled venezuela in a seven-month period. obviously the circumstances around those things, different factors at play. all the neighboring countries saying we ll allow you to come in. poland said people can come in without the traditional mandatory documents. that hasn t happened in every situation, but when you think about the numbers, 1 million people in seven days, that is staggering, and pols are doing their pest to try and help people. you look at a city like warsaw, jose, they said yesterday there are about 3,500 people that came into that city. the government had officially set aside 600 beds. it is not enough. when you see these numbers continue to climb, they need more help. ellison barber and tom llamas, thank you so much. joining me is a former
something extraordinary about the pols opening their borders up and being as welcoming as they have been. i just hear one story after another. i saw i saw i have seen out of berlin metro yesterday that made me a train station that brought tears to my eyes. berliners holding up signs to ukrainians coming in, saying two people and had stick figures up and they were there to welcome strangers, to bring them into their homes, to take them in. that s extraordinary. but the stories on the ground from poland, tell us tell us what you saw on the ground about how much poland has opened their country up to these ukrainian refugees. well, i mean, yeah, joe, first of all i said before the numbers are just stunning. i mean of the first million, about half of the first million have come to poland.