locked up. that s the ruling from a federal judge. it s another setback for the president s zero tolerance immigration policy. at issue here, what happens to those seeking asylum while their applications move through the courts? it s a process that can take years. under a policy put in place in 2009, people that prove that they have a credible fear of going back home are eligible for release during that waiting period. for the most part, that s exactly what s been happening. officials have been releasing them. back in march, the aclu filed a lawsuit claiming that parole rates for asylum seekers have dropped to nearly zero since the president took office. casey stegall live in el paso. this represents a large facility there, i understand. yeah, shepard. on the other side of town in el paso, it s one of 4 others across the country named in this lawsuit. so again, el paso, then we have
on the floor. i don t believe it s going forward and i don t believe we ve seen any progress from the administration in reuniting these 2,000 children with their parents. where will we be on friday here? john, we got to decouple these issues sometimes. the overall effort to try and reform immigration is different than trying to solve this immediate problem about reuniting children. the latter is a government competency issue. it was a policy put in place by the administration that had this effect that clearly was a negative impact and it needs to be fixed and to me that is a test in voter s minds about whether the government is competent to fix a problem. that is different than what appears to be a decade long intractable issue of solving immigration reform which is why i think when we get to friday, certainly, the solving of immigration reform is not done by the house of representatives and i don t have much confidence that solving this immediate problem is really happening either.
continues to do so even after the signing of the executive order that the problems we are seeing on the border are the product of democrats in congress. do you agree with his assessment? i think this is a challenge for the entire nation and i want to work with democratic colleagues and i hope democratic colleagues will work with us and i challenge democratic colleagues to work with us because we have to resolve this situation. but do you agree the democrats brought about this problem or do you believe it s a policy put in place by the trump administration? i think it s a policy by the trump administration, the most recent situation but certainly this is a long-standing issue and we have to work together to improve the situation. congressman leonard lance, republican of new jersey, thanks for your time. we appreciate it. thank you very much. joining us at the table we have democratic senator tammy baldwin of wisconsin. good to see you, how about your reaction to the presiden
collins said they thought it was amazing that kirstjen nielsen keeps saying it s on congress. a lot of the traditional flank with limb, kind of crumpling a little bit, whether that completely deteriorates on this issue will be key to whether the white house moves at all. all right, josh dawsey from the washington post posting that story. thanks for much. with us now is bakari sellers and jason miller. jason, you heard secretary nielsen earlier saying this is really up to congress to deal with. this isn t some policy put in by this administration. but, i mean, this is clearly, i mean, wouldn t you admit, a result of the zero-tolerance policy put in by this administration? certainly congress does assume some of the blame here. i think it s both republican and democrats assume some of the blame. president trump ran on these tough border policies during his campaign and known since he won the election this day was going to be coming. right. they only recently put in may
this is not a law. it is a trump administration policy put into place by an announcement by attorney general jeff sessions in may to separate migrant families who come across the border. she follows michelle obama who just retweeted what laura bush had to say in a very powerful and emotional op-ed in the washington post. and even melania trump, who through her spokesperson, suggested that this government needs to have a heart. so much more to talk about. that s going to wrap up this hour of msnbc live. i m chris jansing. my colleague, craig melvin, will be reporting tomorrow from the u.s./mexico border. katy tur, it is growing, pressure is growing, but this president, who you know well, is doubling down. here s the thing. you have to remember when you look at donald trump, he announced his candidacy by saying mexico was sending rapists and criminals and drug dealers over the border. he campaigned on building a wall to keep them out. he campaigned on a muslim ban.