we re just reacting, then i you know, then we re starting too late. we re reacting too much. the superintendent so what do you want to do? so, first of all, ben, i don t appreciate being accused of not doing my research because i spent quite a bit of time talking but the things you brought up were answered. they haven t been. we have not had the comprehensive situation we ve had solving the problem. we haven t. what we have to do, when this superintendent said that lock your doors and shut your lights is not a plan, i actually agree with him. because what we ve done then what do you want to do ben, ben so let me jump in because ben, every single day it seems we read these awful stories of accidents. put aside for a moment any threat of homicide or mass shooting or whatever. let s get down to the nuts and bolts of what happened when there were lots of guns around. a recent study in the southern
received as much or more training they would receive, in fact, more training. i believe the course is 40 hours here in arkansas and our individuals receive 5 3 hours of training. this sounds great, brenda. you remember recently the empire state building shoot out that happened here in new york and policeman drew guns and fired 16 rounds and hit bystanders with gunfire by mistake and nine others hit by ricochetting bullets, people training with these guns all their careers and now we expect teachers in between giving lessons on chemistry, biology and so on to pull out firearms and be john wayne. i agree with you on that. that would be a hard focused area to stand in a classroom and teach and all of a sudden, when
something occurs, violence occurs you have to go and pull out that concealed weapon and do what you need to do in order to protect children, which we do on a daily basis. we re there to protect our children, and also, my concern with that would be when law officers come, who do they know are the gunmen? because who do they know are the trained security guards you know in that session? that s some of the unknown. students being caught in the cross fire will also be another concern, as well. completely agree. thank you very much indeed for joining me. when we come back, a heated debate on guns and schools. manning thinks it s a great idea, versus a teacher that s against it. that s the grill. this could get pretty lively. american success story, ofn that starts with one of the world s most advanced distribution systems, and one of the most efficient trucking networks, with safe, experienced drivers. we work directly with manufacturers, eliminating costly markups,
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we believe in absolutely gun-free, zero tolerance, totally safe schools. [ applause ] that means no guns in america s schools, period. i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. the nra s wayne with a complete about face on guns and classrooms. i want to bring in two people that couldn t agree more with guns in schools. joining me is marry ann and vice president of the american federation of teachers and works on school safety policies and political commentator, both on