I dont think most understand what the republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is saying. Michael charlie, this is complicated. Let me start with the punchline, the bottom line. This in no way validates the president s claim that he was or or his associates at trump tower were the target of surveillance by the Obama Administration. It does not even come close to validating. Not even close. What did the chairman say to the media and apparently to the president . He said he had a dozen intelligence reports that somebody gave to him. He did not get them officially from one of the agencies. Somebody gave them to him and said i think there is a problem here, take a look at these. A dozen intelligence reports that he said involved incidental collection of u. S. Persons, incidental collection about Trump Transition Team members. That is what he said he saw. He also said he was troubled that some of the names he saw were unmasked. We will talk about what all of that means. Lets
Rose welcome to the programment we begin with a Health Care Debate in congress and talk to ezra klein of vox media. President trump has been going to republicans, the last couple of days, three or four days and in private the case he is making to them over and over and over again is if you dont vote for this, you will lose your seat, republicans will do poorly in the mid terms, this senator, he made this point that when president obama was selling the Affordable Care act in 2009 he came to them and he said if you vote for this, you may lose your seat and it will be worth it. And this is a real difference between what happened with the democrats in 09y and the republicans right now. The republicans did not spend a lot of time working with each other to come up with a vision for healthcare reform that they liked. Rose also this evening a conversation about the ak kaition that the obama add the accusation that the Obama Administration had bugged trump tower. We talk to Michael Morell, for
Rose welcome to the programment we begin with a Health Care Debate in congress and talk to ezra klein of vox media. President trump has been going to republicans, the last couple of days, three or four days and in private the case he is making to them over and over and over again is if you dont vote for this, you will lose your seat, republicans will do poorly in the mid terms, this senator, he made this point that when president obama was selling the Affordable Care act in 2009 he came to them and he said if you vote for this, you may lose your seat and it will be worth it. And this is a real difference between what happened with the democrats in 09y and the republicans right now. The republicans did not spend a lot of time working with each other to come up with a vision for healthcare reform that they liked. Rose also this evening a conversation about the ak kaition that the obama add the accusation that the Obama Administration had bugged trump tower. We talk to Michael Morell, for
Tower. We talk to Michael Morell, former acting direct are and Deputy Director of the cianess what the president said was that he and his associates were actually the targets of surveillance, that the surveillance was targeted on them. Thats what he said. And the president of the United States, personally approved it. Which is ridiculous. President s dont approve things like that. That is what he said. This collection based on the chairmans own words was not targeted at any u. S. Person, it was targeted at a Foreign National and there was u. S. Person information incidentally collected. Thats why that incidentally collected is so important. Rose and we conclude with author kati marton, her book is true believe he, stalins last american spy. He had given up a lucrative a promising career as a diplomat in the state department. He betrayed his country, and his own family didnt know that he was an agent. And he was a product of that time in washington, much like today, where people were se
From our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Charlie Michael Morell is here. He is one of our nations leading National Security professionals. He most recently served as the cias Deputy Director and twice as acting director. I am pleased to have him back at this table. Welcome, sir. Michael it is great to have you back. Charlie it is good to be back. Let me start with this. House intelligence chair alleges spy agency abuse. Wall street journal, g. O. P. Lawmaker sparks new battle over trumps by claim. New york times, g. O. P. Leader puts new spin on wiretaps. Take me through this. Unpack this. I dont think most understand what the republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is saying. Michael sure. Charlie, this is complicated. But let me start with the bottom line. This in no way validates the president s claim that he was or his associates at trump tower were the target of surveillance by the Obama Administration. It doesnt even come close to validating. Not e