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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130327:03:13:00

one? one of the cases, the case of loving vs. virginia about interracial marriage, the freedom to marry is important to all people. what gay people are seeking here is the same freedom to marry as other loving and committed couples share in, and they are saying, we re saying that there is no good reason for excluding gay couples from the freedom to marry. in the excerpts you plays in the court. justice kagan and others asked questions, and the attorneys on the anti gay side were unable to come up with a good reason and that s exactly what court after court and now state after state have found. eric, that s a great point that evan brings up, is that those who are in support of proposition 8 and against marriage equality have found themselves painted into the weird corner where they have to make the case where gay people getting married is somehow

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130327:03:15:00

open the door a little wider. we were debating marriage equality in new york. there were a lot of arguments about its effect on religious institutions it it doesn t create problems for religious institutions or opposite sex marriages. they were down to this argument that the state has an interest in pro creation that somehow we ll be damaged. that argument, literally laughter in the court during that part of the argument. we re at the point where neither this case or if they do duck it and just uphold the law in california. allow california to go forward with same-sex marriage and not provide a greater ruling, the loving vs. virginia moment is coming. the other side is out of arguments. i want to follow on that if as jonathan suggests there is an off-ramp that the supreme court takes what does that do to momentum in terms of marriage equality? the gay rights community? is that seen as defeat, stoke the fire, what s your read? look, every delay, every day that couples are denied the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130327:00:15:00

we re at the point where neither this case or if they do duck it and just uphold the law in california. allow california to go forward with same-sex marriage and not provide a greater ruling, the loving vs. virginia moment is coming. the other side is out of arguments. i want to follow on that if as jonathan suggests there is an off-ramp that the supreme court takes what does that do to momentum in terms of marriage equal fo equality? the gay rights community? is that seen as defeat, stoke the fire, what s your read? look, every delay, every day that couples are denied the freedom to marry is real harm to couples. an insult to their commitment and love. it means that parents will die without able to dance at their kids weddings. kids are growing up without the stability and security that marriage brings to many, many families. but in terms of the momentum,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130327:03:04:00

their parents to have full recognition and full status. the voice of those children is important in this case, don t you think? as the court considered the potential hazards of gay marriage, it took up the issue of whether same-sex marriages actually cause harm to heterosexual married couples. what harm you see happening and when and how and what what harm to the institution of marriage or to opposite sex couples, how does this cause and effect work? once again, i i would reiterate that we don t believe that s the correct legal question before the court. and that the correct question is whether or not redefining marriage to include same-sex couples would advance the interests of marriage as it were. are you conceding the point

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130327:07:00:00

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130327:07:00:00
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