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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140209:01:08:00

if there were such a thing a as a perfect murder, it s a murder where someone else goes to prison for your crime. by making it appear that his ex-wife is the doer, then you re off the hook completely. phyllis tells the undercover she s the stole beneficiary of her husband s insurance policy, and expects to receive $200,000 after the murder. well, what are you willing to pay on this? i was going to leave that up to you. i would be willing to go up to $100,000. i ll do it for that. yeah, she made a pretty handsome offer. that kind of shocked us. we were thinking the offer was going to be more in the $5,000, $10,000 range, which i think is quite adequate, even in today s standards to have someone killed. but that figure really threw us off. what have you got for

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140209:01:01:00

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140209:01:01:00
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140209:01:07:00

there. how much have you thought about this thing? off and on for a year. i ve been trying to find someone to do it without raising a whole lot of suspicion. said he worked in remote locations, out in rural north carolina, and worked alone, and that it would be easy to have access to him to carry out the murder. it don t really matter if it s an accident, if you throw him into a power line, that s fine. what we didn t really realize is that the insurance policy had a double indemnity on it, where if he died in an accident, the insurance was double. that is why she wanted him murdered in a particular way. yet phyllis considers framing someone else for the crime. particularly her husband s ex-wife. i can give you the address and say you shoot him and want to plant the gun at her house.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140209:01:05:00

the line, top notch. today if i were about to hire a hit person, you can go online, run that person, see what have they been arrested for. if you ve been to prison for murder, chances are you ve done it before and will do it again. in 92, you had to take people at their word. there was no access to the internet. you would have to walk into a courthouse and look up c.j. s information and what a trail you re leaving then. detective hyman is deliberately given limited information about his target. sometimes when you re walking into an undercover job, if you know too much, you can actually mess up a lot easier than if you don t know too much. so basically, what i would do is just give c.j. some background on phyllis and let him take it from there. on december 3rd, the two have their first meeting in the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140209:01:14:00

that s the way you re brought up, whether you talk about hey, can you fix my roof or can you kill my husband, it s just natural. we knew that if she did a, b, c, and d, we were going to make the arrest that day. charlotte, mecklenburg police detective sergeant is part of the taskforce with the atf, monitoring the meeting from other parts of the shopping center. we had a pickup truck parked with a camper shell on the back, there were several of us in the back of that truck with an old style vhs type camera. we didn t have hollywood technology. it was just old school using what you had to make the best of a tough situation. as phyllis crowell waits in her van, hyman puts the vehicle in the camera sight line. meeting with crowell in the

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