Now they dont have that for a number of reasons. One, we dont have a good way of understanding what our losses and what are risks are. Often when we talk about the theft of competitive data we usually think about the special sauce. When cocacola was hit in 2010 so it was literature be due to the group associated with the Chinese Government. Did the bad guys go after the secret formula for cocacola . No, no one really cares about that. But we do know is that less than 10 days after the attack happened the Chinese Government rejected cocacolas bid to buy the largest soft drink bottle or in china. Now this was a kid that everyone on wall street thought would go through so we have to think about what is at risk from a very broad perspective. The challenge is actually understanding what is at risk and how to defend ourselves and that is a really big job. Because the dan balz having a holistic view of what is at stake in an organization. That has to come from the board top down and it also h