conspiracy land podcast. great to see you. let s get to this article in the atlantic in which peter biner says if donald trump and his supporters weren t so fond of conspiracy theories, the ukraine scandal would never have unfolded as it did. do you agree with that? yeah, probably. look, you go back to the transcripts of the phone call, and it starts with this word salad from the president, after he says i want you to do me a favor, though, about crowd strike, the ukrainian the dnc server somehow being in ukraine, which was absolutely a new wrinkle to conspiracy the president s bizarre conspiracy theories. in fact, those of us who followed this closely had never even heard that one before. but look, the purpose the whole purpose there was to try
president trump says a bill to replace obamacare is getting very close but senate republicans put off a vote until after the july fourth recess. let s discuss now. scott jennings is here a former special assistant to president george w. bush. doug high and peter biner. good to see all of you. president trump blaming democrats for today s stall health care vote. here s what he tweeted. and a failed expensive and dangerous obamacare, the republican senators are working hard. is he forgetting it s republicans saying no to this bill? well, it is true and democrats aren t interested in helping legislation that otherwise fixes obamacare. they re content with the status quo and right now it s not working because premiums are going up, the health insurance market is collapsing and they re
appreciate that. i m not saying who. and they do go to the gym in the morning, i here. absolutely. chaffetz says this is going to cost taxpayers less because then he wouldn t fly to utah as often. does he have a point, peter? if the government s priorities were not so out of whack in so many other ways, if we didn t have a congress that was trying to hurt the weakest of americans in order to create, you know, huge tax breaks for the very rich, then i think you could have a conversation about this. i think it s the chaffetz point about wanting to make congress not be composed of millionaires is an important point. in this context, when this administration is doing things that would hurt ordinary
back now with my panel. peter biner, i so rudely interrupted you. you wanted to respond to something scott was saying. yeah. i was going to say that one of the really key things to notice with senator heller and senator portman in ohio has been the role of republican governors who have taken this medicaid money. i think they re some of the heroes of this story. they have put ideology aside and recognize that the medicaid money is proving really vital to their people, especially states like ohio who are being racked pie the opioid crisis. and he s got a popular governor in his own state who s saying it will have a devastating effect on people in nevada. and those republican governors
to do it. i m sure, doug, they don t appreciate that. and i hear they go to the gym in the morning. absolutely. chaffetz says this is going to cost taxpayers less because then he wouldn t fly to utah as often. does he have a point, peter? if the government s priorities were not so out of wack in so many other ways. if we didn t have a congress that was trying to hurt the weakest of americans in order to create huge tax breaks for the very rich, then i think you could have a conversation about this. i think it s the chaffetz point about wanting to make congress not be composed of millionaires is an important point. in this context, when this administration is doing things that would hurt ordinary