conspiracy land podcast. great to see you. let's get to this article in "the atlantic" in which peter biner says if donald trump and his supporters weren't so fond of conspiracy theories, the ukraine scandal would never have unfolded as it did. do you agree with that? >> yeah, probably. look, you go back to the transcripts of the phone call, and it starts with this word salad from the president, after he says i want you to do me a favor, though, about crowd strike, the ukrainian -- the dnc server somehow being in ukraine, which was absolutely a new wrinkle to conspiracy -- the president's bizarre conspiracy theories. in fact, those of us who followed this closely had never even heard that one before. but look, the purpose -- the whole purpose there was to try