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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20191226 05:36:00

reporter: when pete got home, would he be upset? yeah, he would be angry, upset. telling us things we didn t even know if they were true. reporter: dave and sue moore told investigators they, too, thought paul had been setting pete up. they d talk a lot between themselves too. and i think paul has been able to manipulate peter. reporter: but pete just didn t see it. didn t realize he was being played by his cousin. that just couldn t be. we grew up together. we were together every day. our parents bought us walkie-talkies when we were 7 and 8 years old. i d sit in my back bedroom where my bedroom was. he lived right down the block on the corner down there and we d talk to each other until we went to sleep. reporter: but now peter s cousin paul, the princeling, the golden boy, was about to go on trial for the murder of roberto aya ayala. as for pete, the person who was treated in this town like he bore the mark of cain i ve had several low points in my life. and it s

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20191128 21:36:00

reporter: but pete s wife mary ellen said she could clearly see paul was baiting pete. i would talk to him all the time. reporter: when pete got home he would be angry, upset. telling us things we didn t even know if they were true. reporter: dave and sue moore told investigators they, too, thought paul had been setting pete up. they talk a lot between themselves, too. and i think paul has been able to manipulate peter. reporter: but pete just didn t see it. didn t realize he was being played by his cousin. that just couldn t be. we grew up together. we were together every day. our parents bought us walkie talkies when we were 7 and 8 years old. i d sit in my back bedroom or my bedroom. he lived right down the block on the corner down there and we d talk to each other until we went to sleep. but now peter s cousin paul, the princeling, the golden boy, was about to go on trial for the murder of roberto ayala. as for pete, the person who was treated in this town like

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20190921 08:36:00

paul would come over and tell me horrible stuff about ed and robert like he said robert told paul that he was going to get my share of what my dad was going to leave me of the ranch. so paul would come over and say stuff to me and he knew he was going to make me want to go say something or fight with somebody. reporter: and pete? said he was simply blind to paul s manipulation. when you re going through your everyday life, and someone has set you up for over a year and a half, you don t know who to believe and so it kept everybody at odds. my life was so spun out of control and i couldn t figure out what was going on. reporter: but pete s wife mary ellen said she could clearly see paul was baiting pete. i would talk to him all the time. reporter: when pete got home he would be angry, upset. telling us things we didn t even know if they were true. reporter: dave and sue moore told investigators they, too, thought paul had been setting

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190204:08:36:00

me horrible stuff about ed and robert like he said robert told paul that he was going to get my share of what my dad was going to leave me of the ranch. so paul would come over and say stuff to me and he knew he was going to make me want to go say something or fight with somebody. reporter: and pete? said he was simply blind to paul s manipulation. when you re going through your everyday life, and someone has set you up for over a year and a half, you don t know who to believe and so it kept everybody at odds. my life was so spun out of control and i couldn t figure out what was going on. reporter: but pete s wife mary ellen said she could clearly see paul was baiting pete. i would talk to him all the time. reporter: when pete got home he would be angry, upset. telling us things we didn t even know if they were true. reporter: dave and sue moore told investigators they, too, thought paul had been setting pete up. they talk a lot between themselves, too.

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