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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240908

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210821 08:08:00

somebody must have helped him. i just don t think pete has the technical ability to do it. unless he seriously had some help. okay. so this type of thing was done by somebody who is pretty intelligent, maybe got some know-how? well, that s kind what was you guys said, and i i think that s right. who do you think is capable of but remember, paul s ex-in-laws told detective salm that paul was more likely the guilty party. probably 90% paul. so now the detective turned the tables a little, suggested maybe it was he, paul, who was jealous of roberto. i didn t hate robert. okay. did you not like him? i didn t like the fact that he would cop an attitude with me. just over something stupid, you know, and little. detective salm pressed paul

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20191226 05:36:00

reporter: when pete got home, would he be upset? yeah, he would be angry, upset. telling us things we didn t even know if they were true. reporter: dave and sue moore told investigators they, too, thought paul had been setting pete up. they d talk a lot between themselves too. and i think paul has been able to manipulate peter. reporter: but pete just didn t see it. didn t realize he was being played by his cousin. that just couldn t be. we grew up together. we were together every day. our parents bought us walkie-talkies when we were 7 and 8 years old. i d sit in my back bedroom where my bedroom was. he lived right down the block on the corner down there and we d talk to each other until we went to sleep. reporter: but now peter s cousin paul, the princeling, the golden boy, was about to go on trial for the murder of roberto aya ayala. as for pete, the person who was treated in this town like he bore the mark of cain i ve had several low points in my life. and it s

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20191226 05:08:00

little, suggested maybe it was he, paul, who was jealous of roberto. i didn t hate robert. okay. did you not like him? i didn t like the fact that he would cop an attitude with me. just over something stupid, you know, and little. reporter: detective salm pressed paul about his past. you ve got several incidents here i have a criminal record. you ve been involved in some bad stuff. okay? you cut phone wires. i tried to help you guys out through this whole thing. you re going to start to cop an attitude i m not trying to cop an attitude with you, but i m having trouble with some of the stuff you re saying. i know my word doesn t [ bleep ], i m a felon, a drug addi addict. everybody knows about it. i put up with a lot of [ bleep ] here so this must have put a whole different complexion on paul. it did. reporter: having thought for

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191222 08:08:00

okay. so this type of thing was done by somebody who is very intelligent, maybe has some know-how. that s kind of what you guys said and i think that s right. who do you think is capable reporter: but remember, paul s ex-in-laws told detective salm that paul was more likely the guilty party. probably 90% paul. reporter: so now the detective turned the tables a little and suggested maybe it was he, paul, who was jealous of roberto. i didn t hate robert. okay. did you not like him? i didn t like the fact that he would cop an attitude with me. just over something stupid, you know, and little. reporter: detective salm pressed paul about his past. you ve got several incidents here i have a criminal record. you ve been involved in some bad stuff. okay? you cut phone wires.

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