pam bondi, having prosecuted? many perjury cases, manyperj perjury cases, by the way,urcase sean, it ss. easy to prove perjury. you lied to congress. it was a material fact and you knew it was untrue. that basic to prove it. rial f and that is that couldac be hisc downfall. tove it.and , you know, it s ay serious it s a felony. and you when twenty when ron johnson says he gave thisnss testimonaiy, he never dreamed that that laptop would show up at a pawn shop or to show up at a shop to get fixed. and he wouldn t claim it and itw would now become public. thenouldt he gets fifty one intel officers, which he s now denying. s 51 i buntt to participate in sayingno that it s fake knowingw deny i d assume the whole while that those emails could possibly be on there that incriminatere. him. hthe had no idea that that laptop could ever see the light of day or that those emails would see the light of day. but perjury is very serious.ould lying to congress is serious. eg most and i can t wait to
has said or done that are worrisome, we d be here all day and all night. and a court of law, does her saying she doesn t remember, is that good enough? does she get away with that? he didn t saddened with the, she said i don t remember. stephanie, you have to be able to prove that if it she said i don t remember, she really little member in july about remembering. and of course, that gets complicated. the way you do that is to talk to people around her and see if she had concocted some kind of story. but that s the problem with perjury cases, generally. they re very hard to prove because you need a very precise question. we need a very precise answer. and if somebody says something like, to the best of my recollection, or i don t really recall, then perjury becomes almost impossible. so, to your question, does she get away with that? probably. phil, i want you to take a look at some of the text messages sent to mark meadows out of insurrection was happening. former trump official m
really little member in july about remembering. and of course, that gets complicated. the way you do that is to talk to people around her and see if she had concocted some kind of story. but that s the problem with perjury cases, generally. they re very hard to prove because you need a very precise question. we need a very precise answer. and if somebody says something like, to the best of my recollection, or i don t really recall, then perjury becomes almost impossible. so, to your question, does she get away with that? probably. phil, i want you to take a look at some of the text messages sent to mark meadows out of insurrection was happening. former trump official mick mulvaney, quote, he, trump, he s a sub this now. congressman bill timmins, quote, the president needs to stop this asap. donald trump jr. himself writes, this is one you go to the mattresses on. they will try to f his entire legacy if this gets worse. reince priebus tells them to go home.
what are the risks for civil perjury in testimony like this? well, there are significant risks. and again, particularly where you have a high ranking government official, courts are not going to give mcgahn monetary sanctions we had civil case. but here, where president trump has shown himself willing to say that we all know or false. i mean, it s not like, it s ambiguous. and in perjury cases it has to be very clear that the will but donald trump has made a career out of that. including while he was president. so, it s dangerous, it s treacherous. so it ll be interesting to see what happens. ted neutrons, we have a space reserved for you the day you questioned donald trump under oath. in that deposition. please come back.
things that we all know are false. i mean, it s not like it s ambiguous. and in perjury cases, it has to be very clear that the person has knowingly testified false. but our trump has made a career of, that including while he was president. it s dangerous. it s treacherous. so it will be interesting to see what happens. ted boutros, we have a space reserved for you the day you question donald trump under oath in that deposition. please come back. thank you very much for joining us tonight. i ll be there. thank you very much. we ll be right back with tonight s last word. word. knows everyone s unique. that s why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh, yeah. that s the spot. only pay for what you need. liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it s not a cure, but with one small pill