the city of mcallen texas is welcoming the judge s decision. mayor lobos joins me now. i read where just earlier in the month in mexico, they relocate add migrant cam parallel to your town. i would imagine that you would be anticipating a really larger than normal onslaught if they lift title 42. they have approximately 10,000 people waiting. so the concern is once they left, we were quite a bit concern. notice was given about 1 month, 1 1/2 months ago of the possibility. there s a lot of different groups from different countries trying to come in. it s been making it difficult. charles: what are the citizens of your town telling you? what are their main concerns? you know what? we re fortunate that our city
is a republican, his city is on the border and wants it to remain in place. 62 gaps in seven miles, creates a very porous border, convenient locations for people to cross. reporter: tucson mayor is a democrat, her city is about 65 miles from the border and she would like to get rid of title 42. title 42 is not an immigration tool and should not be used as a long-term approach to a broken immigration system. reporter: nichols says it s not about politics. it s not republican or democrat. reporter: and shows how migrants use a van to cross into yuma then turn themselves into border patrol. last december he issued disaster declaration because he said border patrol s capacity was overwhelmed. you would have hundreds of people waiting, sleeping here, creating makeshift camps in order to survive. reporter: for you, is it about politics? i m the daughter of
the wave was unbelievable. it s as if something just hit you on your head. and your legs couldn t keep you any longer. you couldn t stand on them. and you understand that something terrible happened but you re not aware what it is. and you re afraid to look up, but you know you have to do something. before the blast, alexi, you were there talking to people trying to evacuate. it was just a day at the train station. everyone obviously under stress and duress but going there peacefully. civilians going to board a train and to leave. you captured so many images of that, people crowded inside, people waiting. it s very calm. people are waiting for the train. people are lined up outside. people are talking. people are having coffee. people are leaving. and then moments later, after that explosion, this horrific scene of dead bodies strewn
control. this is not where the bottleneck is, though, we are hearing reports of people waiting, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 12:00 hours in some cases to get across the border and the holdup is actually well beyond this. on the ukrainian side where you need to get an exit stamp. of course we know that the ukrainian government is no longer allowing men between the ages of 18 and 60 to leave the country. they may well have to be serving in the military or called up from the reserves instead, and so instead, it s all been women and children. we ve spoken to many of them. they described having to wait out in the cold. what i found really remarkable is how few complaints i ve heard from people, even from the children, many of them very small. i have not heard a single child make a peep. i have not heard a single child cry. it is really remarkable. this is not something these people could have planned for. it is difficult enough being a parent under normal circumstances. it is much more difficult when
days. train rides, bus rides, walking long distances in the freezing cold, sleeping outside at times. when we crossed over from the border from poland, i think it was yesterday or two days i guess yesterday morning, i mean, there were hundreds of people waiting. there was an elderly man who we re told had died at the border checkpoint from making the journey. i don t know if it was a heart attack or exhaustion, but he was covered with a tarp. it is just a chaotic scene. i m wondering, where do the people go from there? are ukrainians allowed to, then, go into poland? i know there was a bus to take people to berlin from german volunteers. what happens to them from here? reporter: i m glad you asked. let me come over here and see if i can get you a picture. the buses for the most part have just left, but if you look just behind me, you ll see, like, a truck pulling up. people are literally coming from their homes. people in poland are saying,