and move toward the threat to stop the threat. when the second group gets there, whether it s mission mats, they re all from the same agencies, who has a long, gun who has a radio, who s taking points, who s going to do communications, they form a second team, they go forward. the good news is, what usually have is too many teams had some points. somebody takes over command of the scene and says this is a systematic we were going to do this. in this incident, what we have seen because, as you described, ali, the size of the campus, the breath of the buildings, the number of people hiding in place it is, if we re not making contact with the shooter, now we re searching for the shooter inside the buildings and outside the buildings. in the, meantime we have those people hiding. we are telling them to shelter in place until law enforcement reaches out. but we re seeing at this point, because now we re a bit into this incident, you are seeing groups of 20 and 30 students
victims of this shooting. the spokesperson says they are all in the emergency room. he would not comment on the severity of the injuries, nor would he comment on whether or not there any fatalities. we do know of one fatality so far. five victims now at the hospital. i want to bring back shimon prokupecz s husband s reporting. what do you have? think about this. john turner gave us what you re talking to just a short time ago gave us a timeline of when this first alert went out of shots fired sometime around 8:15 and there are some reports that the first shots that were fired around 8:18 near this berkeley hall, we re hearing that s where the fatality occurred. we are closing in here on three hours. at this time, police, number, one still looking for this gunman. think about all of the students and faculty that are still sheltered in place hiding, fearful for their life as police still continue to search
obviously, it is a very nerve-racking time. i m also joined here in studio by john miller one of our chief law enforcement experts. so, john it is a huge, huge crime scene now. i, mean it is michigan state university one of the biggest schools in our country. it s 50,000 students secured in place right now. some of off campus. in the event, i can t imagine the daunting process for police to go through this. it s a very well organized process. unfortunately, law enforcement has been to the show before. they are very well trained. what you re seeing here is multiple missions. mission number one, the hunt for the gunman. so, far apparently no contact. mission number two, a lot of people got shelter in place or heard shots and are hiding. so they are going building by building. they re getting, cause they re going to those places. they re getting people out and going into groups. they re getting out of the buildings. at the same time, as shimon
we don t know how many students were there at this time. it s not only searching this one immediate area that would happen. but they have to go through this entire campus. if to make sure they re not missing anything in hiding anything in those rooms. if to make sure there s no other victims. you re probably gonna get some time that to happen as police continue to search for this gunman we know others are injured, one sadly has died. obviously now they re trying to figure where this gunman is. we re gonna take you very quick break even move when you back to the breaking news we have a michigan state university aguttes.
said, we have these calls of shots fired. they are going to keep coming in. so far, police have responded to all of those. none of those have panned out as a new shooting. that can be cause for people who heard the original shots. they said they heard shots, there. hiding that gets transmitted differently. you have got a unified command. so, that means that you have the campus. police who have the lansing pd. we have the state pd. who is in charge? it would be whoever is designated as the owner of the incident. most likely the campus police. possibly the state police. it is a call that they make on the scene as to who is going to be running the operation. i mean i asked is because uvalde of. course as you know too well, are the campusuipping analysts? are they immediately handing it over to the police in the state? it is again, they re going to get together decide who is going to make this calls. i think a lot of lessons were learned by uvalde. at the same, time they ve staging