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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141228:08:36:00

while the key could be almost anywhere in this massive jail system, it s probably not with cecil kunkel. he s in the middle of a 20-day lockdown for having fought with another inmate. it was a one-on-one fight, and it s a dead issue now, you know what i mean? it is what it is. it s no big thing. it s something that always happens. it ain t nothing, you know what i m saying? that s all there is to it, you know? kunkel claims his conflict with inmate robert hurd was just a run-of-the-mill jailhouse fight. but hurd says kunkel sucker-punched him to avoid a fight with a bigger inmate who was angry kunkel was flaunting his tattoos. when he got caught up with the big black guy he was nervous to fight that certain person. so he was looking for a plea bargain, basically, a way out, to sign out. so the way to sign out is to run up in the middle of a pod where there s cameras at and run up and swing on somebody who the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141228:08:18:00

if it s not, i throw it away or give it to someone else. no fairy tales no fairy tales see me stranded in jail see me stranded in jail jail back downstairs, sergeant shamrock is investigating the fight between cecil kunkel and robert hurd to determine if one or the other provoked it. i ll talk to the inmates at hand and if there s further questioning that needs to be done, i ll talk to the officers and we may review some cameras and come to a determination. the exact amount of discipline that we re going to give them. robert hurd? is that you? what s going on, sarge? how you doing? all right. you got a write-up here, i see. yeah. yeah? what happened? pretty much, man, i didn t have no forewarning or anything, i just got tagged first, man. because what i m reading here and from what the officer is saying, that it was a mutual conduct fight between you and the other inmate. well, all you got to do is look at the camera, man. you want me to review the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141228:08:48:00

largely in his own hands now. with his trial about to get under way, he is released from his courtroom holding cell. although he will be allowed to change into civilian clothing to face the jury, the jury will never know underneath his shirt is a stun belt to prevent any misconduct. this thing ain t going to go off now, is it? i don t know. it depends on if you re squirrelly, it may go off. it s kind of sensitive. have you worn one of those before? no. first time. first time? one leg up. first time for everything, you know? you know what it is? i guess it s some type of taser device, i guess. i don t know. i don t know. i don t want to know what it is, tell you the truth. later, kunkel s moment of truth finally arrives. you do solemnly swear the testimony you re about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141228:08:15:00

investigation. but hurd s friends made their feelings about kunkel crystal clear. we don t like cecil kunkel. you see that swastika on his head, going to get carved right off. yeah, man. scalp his ass. take the whole thing off. peel it [ bleep ] back. peel it back. how does everybody know cecil? because when you do so much talking and you catch so many enemies, it s not everybody else. at some point in time you have to realize, it s not everybody else, maybe it s me. you see what i m saying? that s as simple as it s going to get. it can t be everybody else in the world that keep [ bleep ] you over. maybe you [ bleep ] them over and they re tired of it. that s real fourth avenue talk right there. one, two i m coming for you three, four better hit the floor two floors above fourth avenue s general population pod is one of its highest security housing units where inmates considered too dangerous to freely move among the rest of the population are housed. albert c

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141228:08:24:00

200, 100, 3, 4. do they have the back windows into the water wells? yes, they do. okay, they do. we will be monkeying around in your water wells. if you call the briefing room and i don t answer right away, give me a couple minutes to get back here. sergeant nicholas heads the special response team that will attempt to retrieve the key. but to prevent the inmate from swallowing it, they must catch him by surprise. let s go to the water well. what the water well is, it s basically a plumber s access. you know, the toilets are mounted against the wall, the sink s mounted against the wall. we don t necessarily go in the cell to fix these. we go into the backwater well. the back walkway, it s full of plumbing. since we have the water well built, they decided, let s put windows. we go on a security walk, the inmates see us, they know that we re there. we can go in the water wells, turn off all the lights, and we can peer in those back windows. if the windows aren t covered with obst

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