different. for example, i think the president s position on the accounting firm is very weak. i mean, the idea that this is outside congress power is an argument that no court has accepted in decades, however, the president s legal position about don mcgahn, the former white house counsel, is pretty strong. that the conversations between a white house counsel and a president are the kind of thing that s been covered by executive privilege, although it s not clear there, either. but it s worth noting that the bush white house, george w. bush, and the obama white house both tried to do essentially the same thing. and the only case, recent case on this subject, involves harriet myers, george w. bush s white house counsel. a district judge actually ordered her to testify, but that case was settled before it went to the appeals court. so the question of how binding a precedent that is is unsettled, but it just illustrates that that issue of white house
nancy pelosi, but no question about it, some members in the rank and file and even some members of pelosi s leadership team are pressing to push ahead, guys. manu raju, thank you. great reporting as always. let s talk to jeffrey toobin our chief legal analyst about all of this. nice to be in your nice new set. beautiful here. isn t it nice? isn t it shiny? yes, indeed. impeachment, first of all, let s distinguish between a vote to begin impeachment inquiries as opposed to a vote to impeach where the house would get together and say we impeach the president and leads to the senate to go forward. an impeachment inquiry what additional powers would that give congress to investigate and would those powers would it be harder for the white house to resist those powers as it is doing now? there is a school of thought and there are some court cases that say if congress is doing an impeachment inquiry as opposed to just oversight, the president
sentenced in the southern district, the cohen i m sorry the mueller prosecutors told the judge in the southern district that we think michael cohen is a credible source. and to be clear mueller and the prosecutors here they are not dumb. they ve been in court before. when they cite that testimony, they ve done homework to corroborate it through other means i imagine? to the extent they can. the other issue about this sekulow/trump matter is that we will never really get to the bottom of it because the conversations between sekulow and trump will be covered by attorney/client privilege, he is a private lawyer, there is no issue of executive privilege there. so we will never know what sekulow was told by trump, but based on prior history we can at least conjecture that there was some falsehood there. understood. always good to have you, jeffrey. jeffrey, thank you very much. we appreciate it. of course, we re waiting for this empty chair moment, the house judiciary committee
in some ways it s a distinction without a difference. when people are saying their constituents want them to move to impeachment. what would that look like? it would look like what we re going to see this morning. hearings, inquiries, pressing the president, pressing the administration for facts, documents and clarity on various different issues. the original watergate committee wasn t really about watergate, it was about, hey, what happened during the election? you know, it was a white water inquiry that led to the impeachment of bill clinton. right. you don t have to call it an impeachment hearing for it to sort of lead inexorably to a question that has to be answered possibly through the impeachment process. john avalon, we got some news, the president is officially appealing the d.c. federal judge s ruling that that accounting firm has to turn over years of financial records of the president as a private citizen. we knew he was going to i a peel it, now they re actually doi
you see that swastika on his head, going to get carved right off. yeah, man. scalp his ass. take the whole thing off. peel it [ bleep ] back. peel it back. how does everybody know cecil? because when you do so much talking and you catch so many enemies, it s not everybody else. at some point in time you have to realize, it s not everybody else, maybe it s me. you see what i m saying? that s as simple as it s going to get. it can t be everybody else in the world that keep [ bleep ] you over. maybe you [ bleep ] them over and they re tired of it. that s real fourth avenue talk right there. one, two i m coming for you three, four better hit the floor two floors above fourth avenue s general population pod is one of its highest security housing units where inmates considered too dangerous to freely move among the rest of