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lawyers in florida who is practicing in florida to represent him. so now we know that he, and his co defendant the former president, are headed to trial. and obviously the pressure has been on auto to try to flip on the former president, we do not expect that to happen anytime soon, especially because, as you noted, at the top there that trump s political committee is paying his legal fees. and so now we see where this trial goes, whether we have a trial in december as the justice department has proposed or whether it might happen sooner or even later, which is something obviously that perhaps might come to the advantage of the former president. of course, as you know, nauta is seen a lot of times in the company of trump, especially when he is out doing campaign stops. evan perez, thank you very much for that reporting. let s bring in our panel, we are with me tonight s paul crater, former federal prosecutor for the southern district of new york.
james writer for the atlantic and fast company. cnn political commentator ashley allison and political commentator scott jennings. great have all of you here tonight. paul, seizing voting machines, invoking martial law, wanting sydney powell to the special counsel to investigate fake fraud. obviously none of this is how a democracy works, however what is the crime? what is the crime prosecutors are looking at with this unhinged meeting? i don t know what it is but i assume it is obstructing the election and the results of that election being carried out. that meeting is obviously a crucial meeting where you have the former president and his advisers contemplating ways to, in fact, through the obstruction of the election. and so i am not surprised that jack smith and his team were focused on that,. what i was struck by, can you imagine if the guardrails did not fold. that they were yelling at each other, the trump team really