obviously at a very tense time here and aside from the one statement by the vice president sometime ago, some weeks ago now i think that there is a possibility leaving the window open for negotiations with kim jong-un. i don t think we ve heard this from president trump since the campaign days. andrea? and in fact, kelly, just this friday at the u.n., the secretary of state tillerson was arguing that the allies now have to isolate north korea and consider downgrading their diplomatic relations with the north. reporter: right. and i think that s the direction that the rest of the allies were sort of heading in at this point. you saw japan today deploying a warship. it s largest warship. this is really significant for japan to get into the act militarily in there way. this is the first time something like this has happened since japan passed that new law back in 2015 allowing this passivist
pretty easy going guy. passivist. community leader concept. and then have you a guy like trump coming in, there is a big comparison. as a result, there is a caustic side that says i don t like the guy, i don t think is he good for the country. he has only been there for a few months. he has done a lot of good things. look what he has done for the coal miners. the bottom line is if you give the guy a chance like anybody else has been given, i think in the long run he is going to be great for the country. but the caustic attitude is really really hurting. let me tell you, american business people they are moving on. they are saying this guy is for us. we are going to grow our businesses. they are not afraid anymore. they don t feel like they are bogged down anymore. they feel like they can grow again. that s important for attitude in this country. ainsley: all right. thank you, bob massi. the property man can t wait to see your show. thank you. steve: next week. thanks ainsley. ainsley
spent on their nato membership. only four cups are doing that. the germance for their defense say look we are spending millions on housing refugees from many of these conflict areas in our own and it would be hard for us to suddenly having had a passivist nature in our armed forces for a long time to suddenly pour millions in and make that particular target. i have also heard from many nato members as well, their remember the assistance force in afghanistan which was helping nato out in a time of neat because they thought it would maintain the nature of the nato alliance. they recall the coalition that innovated iraq. they remember the times when they were there for the united states. and they are perhaps wondering with russia seemingly on its front foot militarily and making people nervous what is it they are hearing from the white house, up your spending or we may rethink the whole thing.
oil? you would leave a certain group behind and take various sections where they have the oil. so it will be an america first policy or four years of bombing. it will be a telling fact. i have to admit, i m not a passivist but he was tickling my zones when he was saying hillary clinton was trigger happiment we a happy. yet he wants to kick the what out of isis? does it mean he wants to keep assad? where do you put him on that spectrum? i think it s a mistake. he works off of emotion. he works off of impulse.
and led to the rise of al qaeda and to isis. joining me now, michelle goldberg. a columnist for slate. what did you think of the first half-hour? it seemed they were not all not at their best. maybe bernie sanders because he wasn t talking about the issues in his wheel house and probably came off a little more hawkish than some of his supporters might suspect he is. there s a variety that he had supported. i don t think he s particularly hawkish by i don t think he s he s not a passivist. hillary clinton, this should have it seems actually tawdry to say this should have worked to her advantage. but she is on fairly firm ground with her foreign policy experience and he s on the record as differing with the obama administration s syria policy.