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the primaries, i m working on 2020, see you guys later. he gets involved, he reads data, he raises money. he s not an establishment guy. he s been a tremendous party builder. i m not endorsing your incumbent governor when you are president of the eyes. kris kobach was an office holder who was an early endorser. it was a late endorsement. he also, as you mentioned earlier, he endorsed john james in michigan, very exciting candidate for republicans, an african-american military helicopter pilot. he s done pretty well in these endorsements. aren t you proving a point when she says he s not a party guy when he s not supporting the traditional candidate? i guess he has people who endorse him. he did not say i m president, but i don t really care about the republican party. he is a party guy. he has built the party. well, he s built the party. in the special election in ohio the rnc did over a million door
franklin roosevelt did. obama has not been a party builder he is not sold his policies to the american people the way a great communicator should. he came in with the democrats have the presidency, the house the senate. most governorship, most legislatures. clarence can i ask you about that point. do you think he was surprise about the resistance he faced from congress or does he share some of blame. i hi, he admitted some of that with david axelrod on his podcast recently. it s obviously, from his own proposals he wanted to bargain
of that in our own time. as president obama gets ready to leave the white house, does he have 18 days left there, how do you read his legacy? what do you think we ll be talking about, historians will be talking about decades from now? i think his legacy is absolutely split down the middle. on the one hand, one can say all kinds of positive things. he might have saved us from a great depression and a financial collapse. saved the automobile industry, put forward regulations designed to prevent another meltdown. of course, passed the affordable care act, something that s elude the presidents for decades. he might have asserted a nuclear arms race in the middle east. he s opened up cuba. on the other hand, he has forgotten what the great iconic democratic president franklin roosevelt always taught, and that is, you not only have to be an innovator of policy, have you to be a party-builder. that s where obama has fallen
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