you the authority as the president to do it. so if somebody walks in and says pardon jack johnson, he was treated horribly by racists, you can pardon him without the application process. same thing goes with declassification. you don t have to go through a process. i m not disputing that. but like with the pardon process you would need to tell someone in the bureaucracy that you ve done it. right. so who did he tell? we are not trying our case leak by leak. so let me ask you this. you signed a letter to congress saying that was all just the result of a rushed pack job. you said when president trump left office, there was little time to prepare. the white house staffers, the gsa employees quickly packed everything up in boxes and shipped them to florida. but it seems this tape indicates at least trump knew specifically he had this specific document. what the letter is designed to do, as much as you want me to try the leak in the press, the letter is designed to tell congress
entirely parallel to the normal pardon process, which goes to the department of justice, in the allegation, the civil complaint. he says specifically, don t go through that, because it s fully-able. it s definitely true, right? one of the pardon a grant coming outside of the normal process. correct, but it wasn t just a normal justice department process that they were going around. they were going around the white house counsel s office. in 2018, december of 2018, jared kushner had wrestled pardons away from the white house counsel. john kelly tried to get it back, never got it back, and he maintained control of it through 19 and 20. some pardons did go through just as interested in really jute saying this beforehand, because rudy giuliani is on tape,
$2 million. is there any recording about that? there s not a recording about that though we know of. we expected it will be corroborated in other ways. how else could that be co are corroborated? the complaint alleges that somebody else was present during those discussions, and in part, we would like to talk to him about those conversations. did you catch the name? you remember parnas, his associate that participated in the pressure campaign in ukraine. also campaign finance charges not directly connected to that scheme. 20 months and prison. he was one of the unlucky ones. on his last day in office, he did in fact go ahead and pardon 74 people can beating those included people like the former chief strategist, steve bannon, and former top fund-raiser elliott buoy throughout the presidency, we got reports about trump completely sidelined the normal pardon process that s supposed to go through. that s right, the office of the
you remember parnas, his associate that participated in the pressure campaign in ukraine. also campaign finance charges not directly connected to that scheme. 20 months and prison. he was one of the unlucky ones. on his last day in office, he did in fact go ahead and pardon 74 people can beating those included people like the former chief strategist, steve bannon, and former top fund-raiser elliott buoy throughout the presidency, we got reports about trump completely sidelined the normal pardon process that s supposed to go through. that s right, the office of the pardon. the department of justice, just as rudy giuliani said that he wanted to avoid it. there have also been reports about just how sketchy the market for pardons was in trump s final days, with trump s allies collecting fees from wealthy felons or their associates to push the right white house for clemency. in, fact the new york times reported contemporaneously in january of 2021 that a former
we have this entire plan. it seems striking we would like what ended up happening. on that note, my first thought of reading the complaint is that this seems like a lot of stuff to jack smith would want to get his hands on. how does that work should he want to pursue that? it s really easy. first, even if she doesn t want to cooperate, the most powerful tool that a federal prosecutor has is a grand jury subpoena. it is a piece of paper that require somebody to go in the grand jury and testify. i suspect here that that kind of show of force won t be necessary, that this can simply be a phone call to the council, saying that we are interested in speaking with her. that could be done by jack smith or phony willis. remember, fani willis will be just as interested in really jute saying this beforehand, because rudy giuliani is on tape, talking to georgia electors, saying that there was fraud there. this is something where it intentionally is quite significant in terms of legal exposure,