it was, what this means for the former president. how much weight do you think his words carry? well, i think what really carries weight is what the indictment alleges and the ability, if they have it, which i m sure they do, to prove the events in the indictment. it s a very damning indictment and if you read the whole thing, you actually see there s a long statement in there by donald trump himself talking about how important it is to protect national security secrets and how he s going to do something about it. bill barr is the worst attorney general in the history of the united states. he did everything he could to help donald trump secure the position he wanted as an autocratic president. he did favors for his friends. he misused the department of justice, including using an investigation in order to get donald trump re-elected, so at the end of the day what bill
when we re talking about the documents, what were they? how did they get from the white house to mar-a-lago? how did they get into the hands of investigators? we learned a lot about that. eli honig is with us. what did we learn about the documents taken to mar-a-lago? it s been a long, strange trip for these documents and it starts back when donald trump was still president in washington, d.c. we recognize that. that is walt nada, the second defendant in this case. he was donald trump s valet. in the weeks and days before donald trump left office in january of 2021, the indictment alleges that trump and nada trump himself was directly involved in the packaging up of these documents and sending them down to mar-a-lago. there was some speculation what would trump know about packing up. he was involved and he knew what was being sent. the indictment gives us important information about what s in those documents.
republican. and he s saying, wait a minute, guys. what are we doing? and if you just look at the polling, both just the horse race polling of where donald trump is and the polling on how people are consuming this and their reaction within the republican primary electorate, they are very sort of for giving of donald trump and dismissive of what is going on when it comes to where they want their vote to be. dana, i was watching with great interest your interview with ohio congressman jim jordan, long-time, very fervent defender of the president. i was taking notes on your back and forth and how you tried to probe on that. i want you to listen to some of the sound from yesterday. saying he there are classified documents in the bathroom, in a ballroom stage and classified information that he that we re talking about information that the united states shares with its allies, critical information strewn on the floor.
barr has to say is of no weight in my mind. i to think, however, that the fact that this person, who was such a scoundrel as the attorney general for donald trump, even he sees the force of this indictment and sees how clear it is that donald trump has done terrible things for which he deserves to be punished. so i think a lot of people will give it weight. it s quite a picture you paint of your assessment of the former attorney general and your opinion of him that some will give it weight. it s interesting though because so much of what we hear, it seems that the opinions are already baked in for many americans. we re going to share some of this reporting later in the hour, but even some of our own reporters in talking to trump supporters over the weekend asking specifically have they read the indictment, there wasn t a desire to even read it. do you think the comments from a bill barr or alan dershowitz who was writing in an op ed about how strong the case is here,
house in miami. how are we expecting this to play out? reporter: erica and phil, it will be a pretty quick trip to the state of florida by donald trump. he will be traveling into miami and going to his resort nearby. essentially, he s got to prepare for what s to come on tuesday afternoon. we expect him to be talking with his lawyers. his co-defendant walt nada had been traveling with him over the weekend and is expected to come to court over the summons from the justice department to make their initial appearance. on tuesday they ll be brought into this courthouse. we might not see them walk in at all. they ll go in and meet with a magistrate judge where they ll face the charges in the indictment. they ll be told what they re charged with, obstruction for both of them. for the former president, 31 counts representing documents of national security any, national defense importance that he is