he did the same thing in the oval office with the ambassador where he released classified information that he got from the israelis. this is a man who is very cagey. does this thing in a public way where it doesn t look like he s actually helping the russians but the bottom line is, he is. and that s where he s going to go down. that point i think is a key one. if you can show the president knowing about what russia is doing via the e-mails even if the papadopoulos information is passed to him,ham saying publicly, russia if you re listening is no longer a joke. he s in public giving a directive as part of the conspiracy plausibly. does he sound like he s joking? he claimed it was a joke afterwards. that didn t sound like a joke to me. go ahead, paul. that s where paul manafort again at some point, chris, paul manafort is pleading guilty. he s 69 years old looking at 40 years. the case against him is really easy to prove. if he s got dirt about the president of the united states
single question asked nor document sought on the 666 building or kushner company deals. nor would there be any reason to question these regular business transactions. i want to spend most of our time in this segment on jared kushner and what this means for the special counsel. but this indictment today of somebody, who, no offense, will most likely be forgotten. to me it s like the papadopoulos information, it just sets a marker. in papadopoulos case, i have someone cooperating with me. then general flynn turns, and i have someone else cooperating with me who is a bigger fish. in this case another person who lied, didn t disclose e-mails, and mueller says, that s the way you want to play? welcome to court. right. this is someone who is really tangential in terms of the personality and the character, much more so than papadopoulos is or was. but it certainly is a big red flare flag and a flare, i should say, to anyone and
investigation, and critics are critical of not just the mueller investigation but all special counsel investigations that they say allow these guys to investigate anything until they find evidence of a crime, and they say, you know, it does end up being sort of a witch hunt for crimes that are only tangentially relate to do what the investigation was about. and if there was a finance tied to the russians and jared kushner. we have no evidence of this, but the trump family s finances have been very opaque. donald trump started in the 70s not releasing his finances. the fact that michael flynn and george papadopoulos were also nailed for lying by the fbi. i think he s trying to send a message, don t go there. we know he s going to talk to hope hicks, the communication administrator. he s also talking to deputies.
classified. we re not supposed to get public information about the warrants. public confirmation of specific warrants and specific targets of warrants, we re not supposed to get that. but now we have that. and so now we know thanks to this memo that october 21st, 2016, a foreign intelligence surveillance act was approved to start surveillance on trump campaign adviser carter page. we then also leshed from this classified memo that that warrant was renewed three times after its initial approval. and that s helpful information. even though it s information we re not supposed to have, it s good to know. i was talking to a reporter friend of mine in my office. we were count iing off on our fingers what those three renewals mean in terms of exactly when that means carter page was subject to this surveillance warrant. if it started in october 2016, they run for 90 days. so that would mean it was
but with the weeks of hype that. conservative media and republicans in congress put into this with the dramatic ask unprecedented action where they released classified information in order to do this, i have to ask you how damaging you think this is and how well this particular attempt of theirs has done at its aim to protect the president and try to divert the investigation. i think it s been very damaging, but not in the way the republican hs hoped. it s been damaging because they built this up so much on fox they were trupting this as the worst scandal in the history of the republic. something that made watergate look like a walk in the park. some of the tea party members were out there saying that this is the most vile thing that they have ever seen. it s a big dud. their proof of systemic abuse by the fbi and department of justice consists of a single fisa court application against someone who was under inquiry by