of the knife. an experiment that s lasted more than a decade, do you think we ve learned anything from that experiment? we ve learned how to use armed drones in hundreds of occasions. i said that a little flippantly. the the experiment has been in manhunting and killing that really from around 2008 on has been a pretty entense campaign. primarily in pakistan, but also in yemen and elsewhere. what the president is apparently going to lay out today. is some sort of framework that he hopes will last through the end of his term. and also, beyond his presidency. the question is this what you raise, is one of transparency. by moving drone strikes to this pentagon from the c.i.a., will that really mean far greater
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supermax prisons. democrats stood in the way of those transfer, too. it was a complete collapse of political willpower to transfer people over here into secure institutions. you can determine how much you like. but the criminal cases have failed. the military commissions have been stymied by their own internal conflict and there s nowhere safe to transfer these people and none of this is happening in a vacuum. just yesterday there was the brutal murder of an active duty serviceman on the streets of london. who in europe is going to take these people? never mind in yemen. mark, i want to bring you into this conversation because i think the massacre, the killing of a british soldier on the streets in broad daylight in the afternoon underscores who we are fighting or the lack of clarity thereof in terms of who we are fighting. we look at what happened in boston. we look at ha happened in london. these are increasingly localized self-radicalized folks who are not part of a broader terr
but two steps back in terms of the ultimate u.s. goals in the region in terms of fostering good will and/or radicalizing folks. i think there s some of that. as you said in 2009 and 2010, you see a tremendous spike in drone strikes in pakistan. and at some point do you have fewer targets and so there s going to be fewer drone strikes. but at the same time, you have seen in pakistan this tremendous backlash to the drone program. and in 2011, especially, great sort of divisions within the american government about the potential costs of the drone strikes. now even though we ve seen the decline in drone strikes in pakistan, you ve also seen last year, there was a big spike in operations in yemen. so some of the american operations have just short of shifted from pakistan to yemen. the obama administration really came into office and after a year in office, escalated the war in yemen and it s still
learned from our actions abroad over the last few years. ending the the iraq war has allowed us to strike decisive blows against our enemies. from pakistan to yemen, the al qaeda operatives who remain are scrambling, knowing that they can t escape the reach of the united states of america. [ applause ] from this position of strength, we ve begun to wind down the war in afghanistan. 10,000 of our troops have come home. 23,000 more will leave by the end of this summer. this transition to afghan lead will continue, and we will build an enduring partnership with afghanistan, so that it is never again a source of attacks against america. [ applause ] as the tide of war recedes, a wave of change has washed across
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