parts of the country. and what we have seen in kansas, this is personal. and during this campaign, again and again, candace will talk to us and they would also talk to their friends and family about voting in this election. because abortion had somehow touch their lives. or they had needed care, and not feel comfortable saying it before. in this moment, when we are a historic point of losing access to rice, going backwards. when it comes to human rights, people are talking openly about care they thought they could not before. and that has been hugely empowering, and i think that we are seeing this play out here in kansas. emily wales, thank you so much for being here tonight, and placed a safe. we will have more on the kansas abortion referendum all throughout the course of this hour. but coming up, we re gonna turn to the state of arizona where polls just closed. and where donald trump has been propping up a slater republican election deniers. regina boating who is running for secre
fascinating to do a breakdown of it is because this is the first time post dobbs that abortion is on a ballot. political analysis, it doesn t trump won t voters actually go out and do. how can other democrats, other people running in this election who support the right to choose, how can they message around the issue given what we are seeing in kansas. how would they look at these results tonight and utilize the message and take that to the voters in november? well, i honestly don t think it s a messaging issue. i think it s a matter of saying, who do you trust to make decisions about their bodies in their pregnancies? trust women, that s really all you need to know. trust women over politicians and that s with the americans people are. there s never been a better opportunity for candidates and elected officials who support the right to make your own decisions about your own body,
numbers, seeing the kind of energy around this issue the democrats said would be there. steve, that is such anime zinc piece of the story that i think we should keep an eye on as these results continue to come in. this was the first time since the roe decision that abortion was on a ballot, so it s so interesting to see that uptick and we will be back with you for more results out in arizona. thank you so much for that helpful breakdown. for more on the kansas abortion referendum, let s go to chris jansen who is down in kansas city. chris, you ve been talking to voters. are these numbers a surprise to you? when i think all day long people have been talking to that have been saying the numbers are huge, the lines are long, but we just got an update selina from the secretary of state and these numbers are off
i m fascinated, i look at church frequency in my polling data more solar than even evangelical. if you go to church 3-4 times a week, that says something about your religiousosity. frequent churchgoers are not going to overturn roe v. wade, i think there s a nuance here, there s a conversation about extremism. as a conversation about going too far. i think in some voters minds they cannot be so for abortion, but they cannot be for the sort of extremism, taking away rights from women and women getting hurt.