they leave to the sound discretion of the trial judge. it's really up to him. he's the man on the ground looking at the evidence. so you see this act after act, where judges have found that trump has abuseed the legal process or that trump has lied. his lawyers are objecting saying these are facts that have nothing to do with this case and they couldn't come in and that's just not what this argument is about. because as adam has done a great job of laying out. the only thing the government could use these prior instances for, at least on cross- examination is to attack donald trump's credibility so that they can then argue to the jury, you shouldn't believe anything he told you on the stand. any defenses he said this man has lied in the past. and you should judge his credibility today in light of all these other times he's been less than truthful. that should be enough to keep him off the stand. but with trump, who knows. >> right. and joyce, as an attorney did