property. as ben jacobs reported quote rather than spend the night in dublin, pence will stay at a trump owned resort on the other side of ireland and commute for the day on air force 2. while aboard the plane, the vice president s chief of staff can you believe this? do you know the cost of that? i know. was questioned about those travel decisions. he was asked, quote, did president trump ask vice president pence to stay at the property, short answer, quote, i don t think it was a request like a command. i think it was a suggestion. a suggestion from the president. the follow-up to that was quote, what does that mean? again, here s marc short s quote. it s like like well, he s going because that s where the pence family is like from. it s like, well, you should stay at my place. on sunday, poland hold on a second. but mike, so here you have the again, it s all out in the open. everything is out in the open here.
that directive to the postmaster general in order to hurt amazon, in order to hurt jeff bezos, in order to hurt the washington post. i mean, that itself would be the single biggest scandal in most modern presidencies, right, if it were any other president. for this president this was an average friday morning, maybe it will make the front page kind of thing, but, like, honestly but, again, there has been no subtlety about the president s antipathy for the washington post. his personal antipathy for jeff bezos because he s the owner of the post. it s all out in the open. well, last month, the the national enquirer, the flagship publication of a.m.i., they published private text messages between jeff bezos and a woman with whom he was intimately involved. mr. bezos and his wife of 25 years upon the publication of that story announced the dissolution of their marriage and their impending divorce, and
donald trump. think of those two narrators. donald trump and vladamir putin trying to explain exactly what happened and no account what happened in that room. imagine you were president trump, a person under investigation for working with russia. your campaign worked with russia. what would you do as a pr matter? wouldn t you have as many people in a room as you could? wouldn t you have translators and advisors? somebody from your country. of course i don t have a strange relationship with vladamir putin, it s all out in the open. he s doing the exact opposite. not only that, the story sourced by a russian official. this wasn t coming from u.s. sources. this is russia saying, we are going to interfere even more with this president by doing this. john heilemann, what this shows us is, again, the russians, at every one of these meetings, have all the read-outs. they know what goes on in these meetings so they can prepare in the future. i love what jim vandehei says,
that s what we have been hearing for months now on background from white house officials and people close to them. i think it is striking they both seem to say that on the record it shows you the deep level of divisions created between kelly and the outside circle of advisers. it s all out in the open. what about saying that president staffers are failing him. do you think there s a sense that the president feels that way? clearly sit a view shared by others. you flow, the president is fondover leaning on others outside the advice and council. there is a war in camps between the people on the inside and the people on the outside.
so many differences between these two. investigations should be had so it s all out in the open. tell us more about the investigation that you believe should happen behind ivanka trump and whether you believe there is a similar crime committed here between hillary and ivanka. do you think the two are similar? well, you are assuming that hillary committed a crime and that is not at all established. in fact, you may remember i was on the oversight committee when james comey was questioned and one of the key questions was did she really any of the emails that she was working with were they properly labeled classified and they were not? it was my questioning that established that. so it could well be that neither of them are in trouble for anything. but i don t oppose people looking into these things at all because the more facts come out, the more truth is out. truth is the daughter of time and we have to let it come out. julie: right, i know.