why did you fire jim comey? what have you been saying to your attorney general? that is really the heart of that part of the special counsel s investigation. he s not going to let it go. gentlemen, thank you for the discussion. great to have you with us. josh, swin, page, we appreciate it. so, supporters gather for trump s rally tonight in ohio, there is a fringe conspiracy theorist group growing more visible at trump events, people with shirts and signs bearing this letter. q. so who are they? we ll dig into that next. what do they even mean? you say stuff that doesn t mean anything. conspiracy theorists you think i m weaponized by the cia? maybe not to your knowledge. that s unfortunate.
him. all of whom expressing a mix of a delight and, b, that this has all happened way later than any of them would have felt comfortable with it happening if it were up to chief of staff john kelly, someone like scott pruitt would have been thrown from the trump administration yesterday if not many, many days before. interesting points, because when scott john kelly sort of signalled to people off the record that before he leaves, and there is some talk that he ll be gone by the end of this month, he wanted to see scott pruitt gone. so this is an interesting development. but part of the problem, swin, you and i were talking about this on tv the other night, is that in the battle to drain the swamp, there are so many people who want to see the mission of the trump administration go forwards, but feel that this was the swamp. i just want to play quickly for you a senior i think it was a deputy chief of staff to scott pruitt who was on with scott hayes another night. let me just pla
as distancing from the white house, i mean there is not a whole lot mr. president trump could do, call off the investigation, which would create tremendous problems constitutionally as a matter of separation of powers or preemptive broad pard than in my mind first of all would be constitutionally suspect to the extent to which it was seeking to obstruct an investigation and secondly wouldn t affect any state crimes that mr. cohen might be liable for. his partner in the taxicab business already pled guilty to tax fraud. so it remains to be seen the breadth that mr. cohen can in terms of information the breadth of information he has to share with the southern district and whether that s going to bleed over into the mueller investigation. yeah. oswin, reporting too that part of michael cohen s motivation with the abc news interview might have been about the idea of changing the narrative in the court of public opinion about him. has it been changed? i don t think it has.
well, i make two things. number one, bill shine is starting off his day by cleaning house, by trying to have a fresh start at his time at the white house and trying to get rid of some of the ethical challenges, ethical scandals following the president. i take a second point. he is on the plane, bill shine formerlily of fox news on the plane with donald trump on air force one and how do they communicate it? they do it by good old-fashioned presidential tweet. the shine regime apparently will not imperil trump s fondness for twitter and i think we can continue to expect even under shine the president will be making major announcements from 35,000 feet from his twitter handle. ali? swin, what are you hans and i were talking about what happens next. there are a whole bunch of people around the country either relieved or happy that scott pruitt is gone, but the issue at hand here is that people who follow the epa, i don t know if they ve got anything to feel relieved about about the d
republicans in town are bracing for it. they know democrats have a lot of enter jeff: and can potentially win the house back. donald trump s two years in his first term, last two years in the first term look differently if he is facing a democratic house or senate because of investigative matters and because of their authority to legislate and to control spending. ali? stand by for a second, hans. i want to bring in aslan joining me on the phone. the correspondent for the daily beast. he stayed very close to this issue. swin, what have you got? well, regarding the recently resigned epa administrator scott pruitt, this is all happening very fast. but just minutes before i got on the phone with you guys, the daily beast has been almost flooded with messages from current senior white house officials and also recently resigned or ousted epa officials, some of whom former loyalists to scott pruitt who feel pretty well betrayed by