Have a mechanism whereby you appeal you have to use the Building Permit to that address the environmental officer. In that case you can delay the process every longer because you can wait until the actual permit t is issued. So if thats the last approval then i have a mechanism to rely on in that respect by appealing the Building Permit itself but to use the permit as an excuse to royal the decision by the environmental officer is problematic. And with respect to the integrity of the planning staff and city departments and everything. Id like to remind everyone that the city lost the case on the bicycling plan and the judge ruled it had to be back for an vial report and the city lost the Housing Element eir so its not also the case the city makes the correct distressing. Tim collins said i dont know if you read the newspaper in his other life hes a geologist and on another argument this was too costly and too time consuming and would eat up the resources of the planning staff. That arg