undocumented immigrant answer they re trying to if you think the federal website is bad, oregon s is even worst. they have not enrolled one person yet. this is after spending $305 million on taxpayer funds on that website. what happened was that these undocumented aliens were trying to get into a program for them, but they were accidentally being enrolled in oregon s full medicaid program. also you see, there s a new obama care delay to help individuals in the midterm elections. this is an extension of the administrative action that they took at the end of last year, that allows insurers to offer noncompliant plans into 2017. now people might not be losing their plans. regardless. the impact isn t going to negate
obama subsidy cliff. the obama care subsidies are available to eligible applicants between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty level. for an individual this is $46,000 a year. and for a family of four, this is about $96,000 a year. if you re above 400% of the federal poverty level, you have to pay back every dollar of subsidy you received that year. for one couple that was in a news article, they had to pay back $20,000 of subsidy if that would have happened to them. one of the big promises many made about obama care was that no illegal immigrants would receive subsidies under obama care. but that hasn t turned out to be right, you say? there s one instance in oregon where pregnant women are
escaped unharmed. meantime, as people sign up for health care today, people in oregon who believe they have enrolled are being met with this robocall. if you have not heard from us by december 23rd, it is unlikely your application can be processed for january 1st insurance coverage. well, less than half of oregon s 65,000 applications have gone through. after mass problems plagued its online exchanges, its glitches forcing thousands of people to sign up actually using pen and paper. joining me now, political panel, julie raginsky. and david winston, president of the winston group. good afternoon to both of you. great to see you. hi, happy monday. good afternoon. happy monday. julie, let me talk about just this one slice of the pie. this is just oregon. granted, they had some of the biggest problems in their initial rollout. how about this robocall? now if you signed up and you get this call and they re telling you, hey, you just go elsewhere, what is the so-called elsewhere
it s kind of a feat to do the day or two before christmas. it s coal in your stocking. beyond coal in your stocking. pretty much a trip to the emergency room for health care by january 1 if you don t have other access to it. look, i have not made excuses for the federal health care rollout. i won t make excuses for this. obviously these people should have had their act together by now. places like california, kentucky, new york state for that matter, other states with state health care exchanges have done a much better job of getting their people signed up that want to sign up. oregon s had problems from the start. the people that are in charge there should be just as, you know, embarrassed about it as the federal health care. here s the thing, david. i have a friend in connecticut. by all accounts, that state exchange is running relatively well. she signed up three weeks ago. and she s got no information on how to pay the premium. today is december 23rd. people go away for chris
what you re describing is a problem that s existed here all across the board. nobody has any sense of any real hard numbers. you know, for example, did 5 million people lose their insurance as a result of what occurred or, as the white house says, it s only a couple hundred thousand. how many people have actually signed up? your situation in oregon, people who thought they signed up suddenly getting this robocall that p perhaps they didn t. i have to say this is an example of just massively inept implementation. in contrast, right, apple in one weekend managed to sign up 9 million people for telephones, right? these websites can t even figure out how to do 60,000. there s a real serious problem. the real sad part is health care is a lot more important than the iphone. although some people might disagree with me on that. talk to a teenager about that. i don t know. for people s future, i think they would pick health care. let me move on to this. this is an even bigger question, ju