president in terms of how does he handle that and how does he move forward. very interesting. julie, david, have a fantastic monday. thanks so much for coming in. merry christmas. merry christmas. thanks. they put their lives oen the line for our freedom. now hundreds of thousands of vets facing some very tough financial times this holiday season. why? and what s being done to help them? plus, new developments in the duck dynasty controversy. what phil robertson is saying now about the comments that got him suspended from the show. plus, we want to hear from you about president obama s rocky 2013. do you think he can recover? tweet me @gretchencarlson. use #therealstory. we ll read your comments at the end of the show. right back. avo: the volkswagen sign then ive
escaped unharmed. meantime, as people sign up for health care today, people in oregon who believe they have enrolled are being met with this robocall. if you have not heard from us by december 23rd, it is unlikely your application can be processed for january 1st insurance coverage. well, less than half of oregon s 65,000 applications have gone through. after mass problems plagued its online exchanges, its glitches forcing thousands of people to sign up actually using pen and paper. joining me now, political panel, julie raginsky. and david winston, president of the winston group. good afternoon to both of you. great to see you. hi, happy monday. good afternoon. happy monday. julie, let me talk about just this one slice of the pie. this is just oregon. granted, they had some of the biggest problems in their initial rollout. how about this robocall? now if you signed up and you get this call and they re telling you, hey, you just go elsewhere, what is the so-called elsewhere
what you re describing is a problem that s existed here all across the board. nobody has any sense of any real hard numbers. you know, for example, did 5 million people lose their insurance as a result of what occurred or, as the white house says, it s only a couple hundred thousand. how many people have actually signed up? your situation in oregon, people who thought they signed up suddenly getting this robocall that p perhaps they didn t. i have to say this is an example of just massively inept implementation. in contrast, right, apple in one weekend managed to sign up 9 million people for telephones, right? these websites can t even figure out how to do 60,000. there s a real serious problem. the real sad part is health care is a lot more important than the iphone. although some people might disagree with me on that. talk to a teenager about that. i don t know. for people s future, i think they would pick health care. let me move on to this. this is an even bigger question, ju