assets is going to help them break the back of gaddafi s army at this point. if they don t, if they don t soon, i really think the u.s. is going to pull out of this operation in the coming months. bret: charles? i agree. it s about time. the rebels may not succeed but they will have a better chance if they have access. with funds than if they have no money now. they need to receive weapons and machine and this is a way to start to do it by having them as the recognized regime. bret: while there are reports that gaddafi is continuing to feel the pressure he is at least publicly pushing back very firmly. like the saturday night live line that marshal tito is still dead. we hear the story all the time. see if it eventuates in his resignation or leaving the country. bret: this is it for the panel and this friday lightning round but stay tuned to so explainer about big campaign fundraising.
in five days. a terrible operation. they botched this. it was never tracking the weapons. it has to explain what happened rather than putting the onus on gun owners and sellers. bret: okay. next up, the news of the world story. rupert murdock, the chairman of news corp. apologizing today to the family, accusation of phone hacking to a girl s cell phone started the news of the world phone hacking story that exploded in the u.k. now in the u.s. with allegation there was phone hacking victims as well. what about the story and where it goes and where it s been? the apology was important. the visit that murdock made with the parents important. it was out of the ordinary. it was egregious.
with 46% of the vote. back with the panel. fast and furious, steve, is the operation in which guns were allowed to essentially walk across the border to mexico, given to criminals. they ended up showing up in dozens of crimes, many murders in mexico, as well as the killing of u.s. border agent brian terry last year. now, there is a new development, in another operation, operation castaway in florida. looks to be similar, the a. t.f. says it s similar but guns going to honduras. similar enough for purpose of the washington discussion and that is what matters at this point. the washington discussion. we had indications this week again that more senior administration officials or top-level justice officials not only knew about the existence of the programs but may have in fact coordinated them and helped to conceive of them and run their execution. i think this continues to be a problem for the administration. and unless they can put these
furious? not sure of the fact date but i heard about the fast and furious for the first time in last few weeks. holder claimed he didn t know about fast and furious, though - atf s sensitive operation. the sides of the operation was so huge, so tremendous. it s impossible to do things in a bureaucracy without orders from the top down. mike vapider built communicates with a host of agents daily on the web site. he told them operation castaway out of the tampa office sold guns to criminals. in this case, 1,000 to buyers to ms-13. the guns to honduras. people don t decide one day in phoenix and then the next day in tampa or following day in houston that well, we will make up the policy. in houston, they told the gup store to sell the