in five days. a terrible operation. they botched this. it was never tracking the weapons. it has to explain what happened rather than putting the onus on gun owners and sellers. >> bret: okay. next up, the news of the world story. rupert murdock, the chairman of news corp. apologizing today to the family, accusation of phone hacking to a girl's cell phone started the news of the world phone hacking story that exploded in the u.k. now in the u.s. with allegation there was phone hacking victims as well. what about the story and where it goes and where it's been? >> the apology was important. the visit that murdock made with the parents important. it was out of the ordinary. it was egregious.