michael cohen and the candidate, trump, about a potential trump-moscow project were hypothetical and not based on conversations i had with the president. giuliani took issue with the new york times interview in which he quoted the president as saying the trump tower moscow discussions were going on from the day i announced to the day i won. when asked if the times made up that quote, he told the new yorker, i don t know if they made it up. if he had those conversations, they would not be criminal. wow. joining us to sort through all of this if it s possible. cynthia, a former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. good to have both of you with us. let me begin with the new york times in which they wrote about giuliani s comments saying when he was hire as the public face of mr. trump s legal team, it
this can legally backfire in a number of ways if he walks president trump into, for instance, a claim of obstruction of justice or inadvert end endl there was experience between the trump administration or the campaign or the russian government. it could backfire on him personally if he ever faced ethics complains with the state bar. frankly we are looking at perhaps at best an effort to try to kind of confusion all of us. i would say in that case, well played, mr. giuliani. let me get your thaws about something at the top of this segment that a senior official said that giuliani s comments were not helping. that person may not be the only person because the new york times is reporting that several people close to mr. trump have grown exacerbated with the
kids and yet we can t be. if a kid gets hurt, you need a nurse. if there is one thing the country can agree on, we need to do better with our public educators. exactly. thank you very much for your time in los angeles. a senior administration official told nbc news that recent comments by president trump s attorney, rudy giuliani on the russia investigation are not helping. on sunday giuliani said that the president remembers having conversations with former attorney michael cohen about a proposed project in moscow up to the november 2016 election. that is significantly later that what has been suggested all along and suggests that the president was not being truthful in his campaign when he repeatedly said he had no business interests in russia. giuliani tried to walk it back, saying in a statement, my recent statements about discussions during the 2016 campaign between