mueller investigation will still be a part of his messaging to voters, even if it doesn t seem to be boding well for him? certainly. i think that he enjoys having an enemy. he doesn t have hillary clinton anymore but he s still talking about her. he uses the media consistently as an enemy. and robert mueller and that investigation, this idea that he is somehow a victim, i think he s very attractive to him, even if it s not translating clearly based on the campaign s internal polling that leaked to another network. if it s not translating to popularity for him, if it s not working. i don t think that he can get it out of his head that it s attractive to his base and it may be to the base when he talks about being victimized by, you know, some shadowy deep state and the democrats and the media. this is all part of that. in that abc interview, the president has said he s really not worried about being prosecuted after leaving office. in fact, he feels fairly
polling that leaked this week. you recall there were reports out last week that indicated that president trump was losing in certain key states to prominent democrats, including joe biden. states the president won back in 2016. the president denied that saying he was winning in every internal poll. but apparently the president grew furious when those polls actually leaked and showed the president losing in those key states. now we re learning, according to two campaign officials that certain pollsters doing work for the campaign are being fired. one official, though, told cnn that they lament that now the campaign is more focused on ending the leak and trying to find who gave this information to the press than it is on trying to improve the president s numbers in key states like pittsburgh and florida, fred. boris sanchez, thank you, at the white house. let s talk more about all of this. julian is a historian and professor and cnn political analyst. olivia newsy is a washington cor
transcript. we shall see. olivia, julian, good to see both of you. thank you. still ahead the new york times reporting that the u.s. has deployed potentially crippling computer code into the country s power grid. the president now accusing that paper, that newspaper of, quote, virtual treason. we ll explain why, next. this is the story of john smith. not this john smith. or this john smith. or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are humana medicare advantage members.
he was giving different instructions than what you hear about. on the campaign will be another dynamic. he plays for the cameras and says one thing but privately there s more turmoil and conflict than is often seen from the white house. speaking of this polling, new fox news polling finding 50% of registered voters think the trump campaign coordinated with the russian government during the 2016 presidential election. and that is the highest number in two years. of that poll asking that question. olivia, given the recent comments from the president about being having a willingness to listen to the dirt and not necessarily instinctively going to the fbi right away. what does this is a about the president and whether he really can recover from this. well, i think when he is being really saying things like, oh, maybe he ll stay, people will want him to stay longer. he ll be so popular. i think that s when you know that he s really trying to rewrite what s going on around
improve it? it s intentional. yeah. it s not by mistake. this week, among those who have been very loyal to the president, former white house aide communications director hope hicks. she ll be testifying this week. still a question as to whether the white house will exert executive privilege, stand in the way of any kind of truthful, honest testimony. what does the president have to gain or lose by her testimony? as a witness, she can be very damaging. she s very close to the president. she was in the campaign. she was the communications director. so i do think the white house understands that if she speaks and she has bad things to say, this will give democrats a lot of material to further their investigation. it s behind closed doors. that plays in the president s favor. part of what hearings can do is allow the public to see the people in the white house, to watch them and hear them say what happened. and he has avoided that until this point. we ll see if he also exerts exec