solve america s fiscal crisis but the partisanship and the name-calling in my opinion is not productive. in fact, i was interviewing one of your colleagues from the deficit commission, alan simpson, earlier in the show. he was also frustrated that he hadn t heard right away when you guys came out with your recommendations that there was silence, really, from the white house, from the president who had appointed you. but now what can be salvaged? one of the points also that alan simpson made was that grover norquist seems to be running the country by having all the republicans sign this no tax pledge which really cuts off one-third, one leg of the three-legged stool for any kind of agreement, entitlements, defense and taxes. well, first of all, i know a lot of attention is being given to grover but the issue of taxes is one on which republicans have been solid for years and years. the real problem in washington is not that taxes are too low. it is that spending is too high.
closing or cutting out some of the breaks for ethanol and other parts i think there s real hope. tom coburn has taken on n norquist. grover norquist and his campaign, a long-held position against tax increases. republicans in both houses, huge majorities have signed that pledge not to raise taxes. they did that when america was in high clover and old grover went around, said sign this. any guy that would sign something before he or she confronts the issue has really sold part of their soul. i don t understand how anybody could sign anything, whether it s about a social issue or anything else before you have a debate on it. grover, if grover is more powerful than the president of the united states and the aarp are more powerful, this country, we don t have a prayer. the aarp, who is the single largest group representing the
is make money off people. i think we should write grover and ask for his books. how much has he raised from the poor old taxpayers to do his antitax stature. during the immigration debate, grover and his worthies put out a water-soluble thing that you soaked in water called simpson ma zoly or simpson row dino or hover, or simpson smith, said put this on your arm because it will be like nazi germany and tattoos. grover needs to get some rest and i would love to see him come out for something instead of against. thee say these guys are stalking horses for in taxes. hell no, i m stocking horse for my grandchildren. anything he doesn t agree with he which you can chucks down th.
i have the best record of a nontaxer in the senate, so i don t have to take that crap from those guys. neil: what do you think about the economic comeback we appear to be enjoying? not across the board but more than a few economic numbers have been rounding the bend. some say that would be the wind not only at the economy s back but from the kind of work you re looking at? if that s the wind, that s got to be a sparrow belch in a typhoon. we can t grow our way out of this. double rates the growth in 30 years wouldn t grow out of this. just because there s a snippet of some glorious up with tick that this is going to get us started? let me tell you, you can t say it more clearly. all the revenue of the u.s. and tell grover those are called taxes, grover, all that is gone.
they play back and for the and love the computers and they can do stuff you and i never con injured and i say put the screws to them. when they say we have to have derivatives or america will fail, i don t believe that. i don t believe you should protect the guys that dragged us into the muck. i wouldn t. i d hammer them. neil: senator stinson, always a pleasure. good to hear you again, neil. carry on. neil: good luck coming out of your shell, by the way. i think it s working. you just heard alan stinson slam glover norl quest. tomorrow, the goofy warrior responds. grover s here and he s not happen. before the goldman sachs hearing, the smearing, the government releasing private emails. all in good fun or over the top