closing or cutting out some of the breaks for ethanol and other parts -- >> i think there's real hope. tom coburn has taken on n norquist. >> grover norquist and his campaign, a long-held position against tax increases. republicans in both houses, huge majorities have signed that pledge not to raise taxes. >> they did that when america was in high clover and old grover went around, said sign this. any guy that would sign something before he or she confronts the issue has really sold part of their soul. i don't understand how anybody could sign anything, whether it's about a social issue or anything else before you have a debate on it. grover, if grover is more powerful than the president of the united states and the aarp are more powerful, this country, we don't have a prayer. >> the aarp, who is the single largest group representing the