To this that is not constructive in our country. Joe biden looked all of us in the eye in 2020 and said, elect me and ill bring us together. And then he ran far left and abandoned most of the country philosophically. So, how could he be the uniter in a second term . A second term all hell do is keep doing what hes doing, which is dividing the country even more than we were divided in 2020. So, the way i would go about it is very direct and very simple, that there is no bad opinion. You want to express your opinion in this country, express it. I want to hear it. And then everybody gets around the table and resolves our issues one at a time. The same way we used to do at Dinner Parties before the last eight or ten years. Wasnt like there werent political differences discussed. Its just people didnt start throwing the cutlery. It was a little more civilized. And it wasnt as if our democracy was at stake. See, in the end, if you make everything a crisis, then it will be. And i heard the pr
to this that is not constructive in our country. joe biden looked all of us in the eye in 2020 and said, elect me and i ll bring us together. and then he ran far left and abandoned most of the country philosophically. so, how could he be the uniter in a second term? a second term all he ll do is keep doing what he s doing, which is dividing the country even more than we were divided in 2020. so, the way i would go about it is very direct and very simple, that there is no bad opinion. you want to express your opinion in this country, express it. i want to hear it. and then everybody gets around the table and resolves our issues one at a time. the same way we used to do at dinner parties before the last eight or ten years. wasn t like there weren t political differences discussed. it s just people didn t start throwing the cutlery. it was a little more civilized. and it wasn t as if our democracy was at stake. see, in the end, if you make everything a crisis, then it will be. a
alone can fix it, of donald trump. the person who thinks they have all the answers, we ve worked in the white house, no one has all the answers. i think he was a little meekly prepared on the abortion answer. and i think he will sharpen up on it. seemed like he was leaning into a states right issue, what s right for oklahoma doesn t have to write for new jersey, because the answer was around a federal sort of ban. but again, this will be one of the defining debates of our time, and certainly of this coming election. and i think that that group he is trying to appeal to and stands to grow with, which is independents and moderates, he s going to have to define and lane in terms of where he is on jobs in the post-dobbs era. yeah, and that, paul, he did not do that. no, he is a guy who does not want to live and die on social issues. he is not a right-wing social warrior. you know, ron desantis, to paraphrase joe biden, every sentence is a noun a verb and woke. just christie doesn t wan
chris christie saying the opposite. look, i stand by the second amendment, i m personally pro-life, all these things. but let me tell you how i m going to think as leader and act as leader. and it was differentiating him from a lot of other competitors. to that point, let s talk about the abortion question, because there is one telling moment there, he said, look, in oklahoma you can have an abortion at all, and he said in new jersey, now that s his state. they now allowed up to nine months. he was making the point that he was pro-life but the governor of a state that was, and he could support that, fine. but his point in his i get that it s complicated. but he s saying until the states figured out and get on the same page, there is nothing that can be done. but the reality, of course, is that you are in a state where a woman in a dire situation may not get an abortion at all. it doesn t really answer the question. i saw two ways. on the one hand, there s a level of humility, and
appreciate your time. you re one of only four abortion providers in oklahoma as we understand it. and now you re dealing with this overflow from texas. in response to the texas law, what are you seeing at your clinic? right now, our clinics are trying to see about twice as many patients that they normally do. keep in mind, most of these people are calling from cities that have more clinics than the entire state of oklahoma. it s very, very tragic, very difficult to get an appointment, and it s forcing people to delay further and further their care. talk to me about that delay, because it s not just the delay of people coming in from texas, it also is that also causing a delay for people in oklahoma as well? how maxed out are you and what are you hearing from people? folks are calling us confused, scared, calling a lot of clinics in all of the surrounding states. thankfully, oklahoma doesn t have an in-person visit