nationalism and religion in some circumstances and based on a economic mind set for example and they have been wronged and they are in a rightful position to strike out because they have been the victim ofy victimize. experience has been in interviewing persons that at times that is exactly what they might say. because they have been wronged they have the position to harm others. they have been the victim. the mind set that they are getting revenge is where it allows them to think this is rightful. dr. ron bailey have you given us unique insights into the minds of terrorists. thank you so much for taking the time to do so. appreciate it. thanks for having me. thank you, doctor. well, it has certainly been a busy night and early morning for us. we appreciate your being with us. i m greg jarod.