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today, i was a few inches from paul manafort, a few feet from rick gates. as he walked through just the details of the what he said was a criminal scheme, set up by himself and paul manafort to defraud the u.s. government. fake invoice, fake consultant agreements, fake documents to banks, all to get loans illegally, but also to avoid u.s. taxes. funnel these millions of dollars they were getting from the pro-russian government in ukraine away from u.s. talkses to offshore accounts. that was the focus today of gates testimony. the defense attorney trying to poke holes in that testimony by questioning gates credibility, saying if you ve lied before, and remember gates has admitted to lying to federal prosecutors, if you lied before, why should the jury believe you now? and gates saying effectively, listen, i m taking responsibility for this now. and that s why the jury should believe me. do we know how paul manafort or at least how his attorney is feeling about gates testimony?
suggesting that his ideology shifted, not so much in terms of communism or pro russiaism, but this concept of what can i could to become an oligarch. and i think i m not so sure that trump thought he was going to win the election. but he clearly looked at this and said, even if i don t win there is a way toin grash ate myself with the russians. same thing to you, sara. is he emulating trump, putin or trying to become ex traf ganltly weather in the way that putin did? i think those two things are very similar. i think he is trying to emulate him and i think putin is extravagantly wealthy, estimated to be worth $200 billion. by some its accounts. and we don t know precisely what putin is worth. he hides this money through friends, kroonees, offshore accounts. and there is a similar phenomenon going on with trump. we don t know how much money trump has. we don t know what his tax returns. we don t know who he owes money
questions come about looking at bain capital, looking at his investments, he really invited us to look at his tenure as the ceo of bain and opened the door to this saying look how i conducted business. i m a job creator. look what i did in the private sector. then when people started looking, he started saying no, don t go this far. only look at what i want to show you. well, when he ran against senator kennedy, when he ran for governor he did not disclose his tax returns despite the precedent his father set. he did not believe he would have to. it s quite extraordinary. when john boehner says this is all about jobs and the economy, absolutely. and when we name him as a job creator a man who turns businesses around, to look at his businesses and say what tax breaks, loopholes, offshore
more of it from the obama campaign. chip, joe scarborough said on morning joe about the bain defense something telling. take a listen. i m barack obama, i approve this message. tax havens, offshore accounts, caredied interest. mitt romney used every trick in the book. i agree that is not a good answer. give me a name. give me a face. give me the romney people haven t handled this well. the romney people have not handled this way. give me a name, give me a face. the questions surrounding romney departure from bain points out in 99 to 2002 not changing the letter head. but why not come forward with the real ceo? yeah, i agree. i think they have an opportunity to set it up. this is simple math. he left in 1999 to run the olympics. he couldn t have done both jobs if he was spending six days a week in salt lake. he s an impressive guy but i m
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