campaign and russia. why do you say that? well, because we would have seen it. again, collusion is kind of a nothing word. when i say collusion i mean as you point out, john, criminal collusion. that is to say a conspiracy that violates a provision of our criminal code. and i think we would have seen it now in all of the various plea agreements and statements of the offense that go along with plea agreements that have been issued by bob mueller and his team. really almost all of these have to do with obstruction of justice or lying to the government. if there was a larger case, i believe we would have seen it by this time. so i don t think it s there. sandra: i want to get your take on the debate that is happening right now. some democrats running for president are bringing up the idea of packing the supreme court. lawmakers, some of them weighing in. senator marco rubio penned a piece published on fox news.com saying the supreme court needs