mueller? well, first, the easy part, while the democrats doing it? they are never held accountable by the d.c. media. they brought michael cohen and john dean as either fact witnesses or experts, you would ve been excoriated as a chairman if you had brought two witnesses like that, but they have a safety net.an they are never criticized. b you are calling someone who does not want to come, who is not going to deviate from the four f corners of his report some of us did not even think that the report should be public. we sure as hell do not think he ought to be testifying. but they get a passport what should republicans do? they should prepare. you have the best lawyer at your guest tonight. i m not worried about john ratcliffe, he s fantastic. but they need to think of the trenches or buckets, what did he find? no criminal collusion. what did you not find? an indictable obstruction of justice defense. what did he not bother to look for? johnny mentioned collusion
and trump to lose. the how much bias are you willing to put up with? you fired strzok but hired a bunch of prosecutors that felt the same way. number two, somebody needs to ask about this legal issue, if you can resist an unlawful arrest. can you resist and on predicated investigation? which forces us two to go to the origins of this russia investigation, and how much time did he spend cycling through that? then i would go to what did you find? no collusion, no criminal collusion, despite two years. what did you not find? an indictable offense for obstruction of justice. and this is a category i would encourage you devin and jimmy to think about this what did you not bother to look for? just got through talking about something on the power and other people in the american government that may have wanted to influence either an election or the administration. we spent two years focused on whether a foreign country was going to influence or interfere with our election. mueller, did yo
i forgot to make? here is why i think collusion is so centrally important. number one, this is the main thing that bob mueller was appointed to find out. and if the collusion narrative by the left if it s there, we want to know about it. if there was no collusion between the trump campaign and the russians, that s a big thing because it forces the democrats to look into, if they are intelligent, why they lost. they re telling themselves, too many of them, we lost because of improper collusion between trump and the russians, not because we didn t have the right message. and so it has allowed them not to look at themselves and say how the hell did we lose to this guy? i mean, maybe perhaps we are advocating programs that are far to the left of what mainstream america wants. so i don t think we should just go people in congress are saying well, there is not
collusion but there is this, let s go to the next issue. let s go to the campaign finance. but it is actually very, very important. the trump people did not collude with the russians to rig the election. i think it s important. jon: some democrats on capitol hill in congress have said if they aren t satisfied, if they don t like the mueller report, they ll keep on going with investigations in congress. what do you think? well, that s their right. they have a majority in the house. i m sure we ll have all kinds of fights as we always do between the congressional branch that issues the subpoena and the executive branch that doesn t want to follow them. we had them under obama. the house held eric holder in contempt because he didn t provide information they wanted. that is part of the glory of american democracy. sandra: finally we want to ask you about the president is now set to sign this executive order on campus free speech.
campaign and russia. why do you say that? well, because we would have seen it. again, collusion is kind of a nothing word. when i say collusion i mean as you point out, john, criminal collusion. that is to say a conspiracy that violates a provision of our criminal code. and i think we would have seen it now in all of the various plea agreements and statements of the offense that go along with plea agreements that have been issued by bob mueller and his team. really almost all of these have to do with obstruction of justice or lying to the government. if there was a larger case, i believe we would have seen it by this time. so i don t think it s there. sandra: i want to get your take on the debate that is happening right now. some democrats running for president are bringing up the idea of packing the supreme court. lawmakers, some of them weighing in. senator marco rubio penned a piece published on fox news.com saying the supreme court needs